RCBS Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Can someone answer this Civil War question: Why did non-slave owning southerners fight in the Civil War (Yes, a large majority of southerners in 1860 did *not* own slaves)? What were they fighting for? Also, those in favor of removing the monuments...you do realize that those confederate soldiers are to be, by law treated as US Veterans? Just looking for a rational, no BS answer. What was the average southerner's "call to battle" for? Surely they weren't willing to die for the right of others to own slaves? Men of color also fought. I'm having a real hard time believing that the entirety of the Civil War was fought so some plantation douches could keep their help. Learn me please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, RCBS said: Can someone answer this Civil War question: Why did non-slave owning southerners fight in the Civil War (Yes, a large majority of southerners in 1860 did *not* own slaves)? What were they fighting for? Also, those in favor of removing the monuments...you do realize that those confederate soldiers are to be, by law treated as US Veterans? Just looking for a rational, no BS answer. What was the average southerner's "call to battle" for? Surely they weren't willing to die for the right of others to own slaves? Men of color also fought. I'm having a real hard time believing that the entirety of the Civil War was fought so some plantation douches could keep their help. Learn me please. Difficult to pin down, what all happened, and opinions in history books differ. Something that is agreed on, is that the federal government was hitting the South with Tariff taxes on imports from Europe. The South didn't make much, like the industrial North. They imported their goods. Tariffs started in the 1820/1830s, and got worse. Some say the Northern economy was deliberately trying to suppress the Southern economy. Probably did, for money and power. So it's mostly the abolition of slavery and/or increases in tariffs that caused the Southern states to break away. edit: now for a snarky answer from a Southern viewpoint. After 40-50 years of the North whacking on the Southern economy and threatening Southern society, The South wouldn't take anymore. No recourse was ever given, to ease the South into a national economy. It was more like die, Southerners, die. If we did this today, the federal government would have subsidized to ease the transition. Something like a minimum wage, federal housing, free phone, free health care for a while... oh wait... that sounds familiar. Edited August 21, 2017 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 6 hours ago, RCBS said: ...you do realize that those confederate soldiers are to be, by law treated as US Veterans? No such law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I'm lost. Is Trump still working for the Russians? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Just now, Tpoppa said: I'm lost. Is Trump still working for the Russians? Yeah...he's getting paid with Uranium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Qman said: Yeah...he's getting paid with Uranium! No wait, so the Russians are working for the white white supremacists and the Lee statue was made of N Korean uranium. Damn it's hard to keep up with CNN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 This is supposedly an eyewitness from Charlottesville Gets interesting around 10:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Interesting take on racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Street Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 8:20 PM, ReconRat said: I've been reading up about mass hysteria. Pretty much what we're dealing with. Not much that can be done about it either. Other than don't fall victim to it yourself. On 8/20/2017 at 6:44 AM, Qman said: Where was the mass hysteria when Barry declared himself dictator?? Interesting piece by Scott Adams - creator of "Dilbert". Is you is, or is you ain't... http://blog.dilbert.com/post/164297628606/how-to-know-youre-in-a-mass-hysteria-bubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Street Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 On 8/20/2017 at 3:10 PM, ReconRat said: A little Chicago humor. Apparently the Chicago media doesn't like Chicago politics too much. Ran an article stating that if we get rid of evil historical stuff, the Democratic Party has to go. Being the historical party of all that nasty stuff. While we're toppling offensive symbols, what about the Democratic Party? - Chicago Tribune "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." George Orwell. "1984." So true and up to the minute, oh wait written when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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