ScoobyMcPot Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Im putting a new engine in my civic and i need suggestions on weather to do the H22, B16... Also if anyone knows of someone that could help me with the actual work it would be great. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyMcPot Posted May 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyMcPot Posted May 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Sign Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Why not a B18? I am no Honda person, but the B18 seems to be "the 350 of import engines" Swap has been done many times, more stroke than the 16 (torque), not near as heavy as the H22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mudbutt Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 b18b + boost. 250+fwhp on stock internals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still2hi Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 im not a import person either, but i do know a little. ricohet is right on this. b16 is the best engine to turbo (lowest compresson). h22 are a good strong engine but harder to come accross and more money in it. i believe they came in the earlier preludes as the b16 came from integra's and a few others. b16 is also a direct easy swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ronald-reagan Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Originally posted by still2high: im not a import person either, but i do know a little. ricohet is right on this. b16 is the best engine to turbo (lowest compresson). h22 are a good strong engine but harder to come accross and more money in it. i believe they came in the earlier preludes as the b16 came from integra's and a few others. b16 is also a direct easy swap.not to come in here and bust some balls (you did say you werent an import guy), but the h22 is about half as expensive as the b16. you can score a full swap from a few different places for about $2000, where i believe a b16 is up around the $4500 range...brian correct me if im wrong... i used to be a huge fan of the h22...ive seen what it can do in a del sol and its nothing short of kick ass, but ricochet pretty much laid the +'s and -'s out for you. what it boils down to is whether you want a daily driver or not. the b16 is going to be a great everydayer where the h22 is going to handle like shit, leak/burn oil, and require quite a bit of suspension mods. want to hear me bitch more about my h22, PM me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_t0wn Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 I am an import guy, IMO the b18b (ls) is the best engine to boost. It has more tq than the b16, has lower compression, and has been tested to put down 280whp a stock block with hondata. If you are buying a b16 for 4500, it must be a type R because ive seen them for about 2000. H22 is a bitch, Rico amd Ron got it right, it will go fast in a line, but not a daily driver. As for help, www.slowmotionmotorsports.com I'm very happy with them, great group to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIEF Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 I'd go with the H22, but I'm bias. Everyone always says "have fun turning it", but from experience it's hardly any different. So don't let the "turning" issue play a part. If you want big numbers I'd go with the H22, but it's a harder swap (physically, not wiring) and you have less room. B18-16....aah who cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mudbutt Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Originally posted by Ricochet: Kenny, All integras have B18's, and B16's came only in Civics smile.gif Just a useless fyi. Didnt the 2nd generation integra gsr have a b16? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Sign Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Originally posted by Mud Butt: Didnt the 2nd generation integra gsr have a b16?Yeah, there was a 1.6 and a 1.7 in them. Ricochet honda ricer boy just got pwm3d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG BeN Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Originally posted by Ricochet: He didn't ask about boost so I didn't really touch on that too much, but yes, an LS (B18B) engine would be the best one for that and they're really cheap too. Kenny, All integras have B18's, and B16's came only in Civics smile.gif Just a useless fyi. The B16A's (Si engines) are like $2400 for a complete swap. H22's are cheaper than that, like $2000-$2200. If you want a GS-R (B18C1) engine, you'll still need to get a set of motor mounts from hasport, but will wire right in for the most part unless it's a jdm engine. They are fun, torquey motors though. The overpriced B16B Civic Type R engine is what I have, and if I knew then what I know now I would have gone LS/turbo.actually the B18C1 doesn't need special mounts to go in a 93.my old 93Si worked fine i just can't remember if i used the integra mounts,or the civic mounts.i'm thinking integra.and then replaced them with prothane mounts,but again...don't remember the application on the mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still2hi Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 sorry if i miss lead anyone from what i said. like i said not a import guy, but im trying to learn about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyMcPot Posted May 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 thanks for all the help, the car is going to be driven daily and i know where i can get a full h22 swap for about 2700... I also have a b16 for about 2300... thats why this decision is hard and im not gonna have the money to turbo it for awhile and i want something fun to drive. Thanks for all the help everybody: Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyMcPot Posted May 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 what would be the difference in instalation if i took to a mechanic??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyMcPot Posted May 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 <price wise i mean> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyMcPot Posted May 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 price wise i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1647545497 Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 I think reading this topic made me stupid. Go H22, it will dominate the B16 in everyway. Its like comparing a Corvette to a Metro, which one would you take? After all said and done the H22 will cost a little more but hey its worth it. They make harnesses and everything for that swap now so it is pretty much just the same as any other B series swap besides the linkage. And for people saying it will handle like shit, you obviously havent rode in one. Ive been in H22 tegs and civics and they dont handle any different than any other motor on the STREET. And just to clarify something on the 2nd gen tegs. in the US they came with B18A's from 90-93 and they also had the B17(practically a B16) which was in the GSR from 92-93. B16's were in integras, but only in Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06busa Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Originally posted by steve: I think reading this topic made me stupid. +1 First time reading it I quit about half way through because so much was messed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still2hi Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 if your serious i can maybe get you a strong running, b16 with intake, header, tranny and all for less than a grand. let me know if your interested and ill talk to my friend and see if he would sell it. brandon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoobyMcPot Posted May 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 thanks... ill get back to you soon to let you know which im doing. thanks to everybody else for their input if you have ne more suggestions please tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIEF Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Damn $2700? I had the whole swap + a vafc for $2200, in perfect condition, JDM yO engine. But it's sold smile.gif . Steve's right in the honda world H22 > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1647545497 Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Originally posted by SHIEF: Damn $2700? I had the whole swap + a vafc for $2200, in perfect condition, JDM yO engine. But it's sold smile.gif . Steve's right in the honda world H22 > * My buddy bought your swap for his 4th gen lude and it made his F22 look like a B16 tongue.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIEF Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Yeah I loved that engine Glad he got it going good smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest infamous me 235 Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 yeah- do it on a car worth it. not a 4door civic that's 10 years old and has "wanna be" rims on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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