Guest d3caps Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Background info: This is a prison van. We are trying to take bolts off to remove the bars on the windows. The bolts are torx bits, but they have been rounded off so prisoners cant take them. It is a torx bit and we cant get a good grip on them. The bolts are 3/4", so things like gator grips will NOT work. What has worked: We got half of them out. One we got out using the torx bit to get it moving then vice grip. Two we got out by using the torx bit. What hasn't worked: Torx bits and vice grips just will NOT work on the remaining bolts. Possible solutions: Somehow dremel enough out to fit a screwdriver and try to get it out? I am not sure if we have anything strong enough to dremel down about 1/8th" Solder/Weld a torx bit in there and try to use a wrench to get the bolts out. Have no idea if this will work. We dont have any tools to weld, not sure if the solder is strong enough to hold the bit in with lots of torque Link to pics (warning, huge): Pic1 Pic2 Pic3 Pic4 Pic5 Pic1 Thanks! You can message us directly at either: ATLspaeced or Stock2Mal1232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1647545498 Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Could try drilling in a little with a small attachement then use one of those reversal bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest powers Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 if they are big enough to get a set of vise rips on you could take them off with a burn off kit. Like this one http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00952160000&bidsite=CRAFT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest d3caps Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Originally posted by Mr. 2: Could try drilling in a little with a small attachement then use one of those reversal bits. Oh yea, we tried screw extractors. Nothing ends up catching I think we came close with 17/64" screw extractor ... no luck. Thanks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest d3caps Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Originally posted by BIG PAPA: if they are big enough to get a set of vise rips on you could take them off with a burn off kit. Like this one http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00952160000&bidsite=CRAFT That kit doesn't have an attachment big enough. The rounded part of the bolt is ~19mm or 3/4". We tried vise grips, worked for some, but they just will not lock and move for the bolts remaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desperado Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 I can TIG bolts to them. Then you could just back them out. Short of that, get some GOOD drill bits and drill the heads off them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 your stuck weld nuts on the ends of them and turn them out with a big wrench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RdHondaSi Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Wouldn't it be easier to plan your getaway other than taking off the bars?? I had a messed up lock on my wheel, and what we did was: Cut a slot in the head using a die grinder Take an impact chisel and point it toward the left to loosen it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest d3caps Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Originally posted by desperado: I can TIG bolts to them. Then you could just back them out. Short of that, get some GOOD drill bits and drill the heads off them. I would *REALLY* appreciate it. It shouldnt take more than a couple minutes. I guess question is - what type of head is best to add onto the current bolts? So far I have heard, use a torx bit, another bolt, or a nut. What do you guys think?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridenred27 Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 here is a novel idea ( it works ive done it) get a good bastard file and file 4 flat edges on the head until you can get a wrench on the flat sides then file off the corners and you now can put a socket on the head. beware these bolts are either locktited or are a pinch thread so they wont back out due to vibration (safty first)so make sure that you have a tight fit. or another option is to duct tape the head liner around the bolt and use a dremel or a cut off wheel and cut a straight line across the head and use a large flat head screwdriver to screw them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 I'd just use a dremel and a cut off wheel... then stick a big screw driver in there and get the bolts out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Automotive Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 there should be no reason drilling and extracting doesnt work. those are not torqued as tight as head bolts. i have had to drill and remove plenty of head bolts this way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest d3caps Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Originally posted by Faster than Yours: there should be no reason drilling and extracting doesnt work. those are not torqued as tight as head bolts. i have had to drill and remove plenty of head bolts this way We tried to get the bolts off for over 2 hours. You are welcome to come and take them off if you are so confident in your method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Automotive Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 im very confident... good luck to ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rperry74 Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 I didn't post anything usefull here so my post got edited. [ 19. February 2005, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: O.G. ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG BeN Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 i like thw elding somethin to them idea. i'de probably do something quick and easy like a small piece of flat stock. then bite on it with a big crescent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desperado Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Did weld with bolts. Just stuck the bolt in the drilled hole and tacked it up with the TIG welder. Done deal. Only had one minor issue with the heat getting over at *** headliner and after that one spell of sillyness I started weting the headliner before welding and it went great after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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