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There is a difference, you need to provide choice. You can work for the welfare, you can work a real job or starve. Socialist Government = no choice, you can work at a state job, or you can work in a Siberian Prison, but you work for the state, one just pays a bit better than the other, but you still will not own your house. I am not saying I want to see the country become socialist, quite the contrary, I want to see the government motivate people to get off their asses, grow a pair and go work like the majority of us do. Assistance and entitlement programs are acceptable and even needed for a small part of the population that phyically can not work. This however does not include drunks, drug addicts, or lazy fucks that got trained at a young age how to work the system and have thier hand out for every government program that comes down the road. We as American's need to demand this be changed, and changed drastically. This is a fair and balanced way of doing it. I wil not lie to you that the illegal's don't fill a labor vacuum for unskilled low paying jobs. But the jobs need done either way, if you don't have low wage unskilled people to fill that position, you would either need a program like this, or you wiould need as an employer to raise the pay until you could fill the job. The fact they dont need to is the reason that the gross wage earned compaired to the cost of living has gone backwards in the last 10 years.

God, were is the next Ronald Regan??? It's simple, run the illegals out. Once they are out, turn the welfare system into the biggest government run employment service the world has ever seen. Make EVERY able bodied general assistance recipient go to work, pay the wages to the welfare system and let them continue to collect their checks, as long as they are working. When they quit working, give them a choice, stay and starve, or be deported. As long as there is an option it's not socialism, as close as it sounds. Once a person HAS to work, they are motivated to get a real job instead of scrubbing the toilet seats in a public bathroom, or some other job that no one wants. Welfare with shrink drastically in size. There will be additional tax payers to fund welfare and it will be fair. I am not for forcing the disabled or infirmed into working, just the ones that are able bodied. Second act, pull all the money back from Lousiana, bull doze and clean up the remnants of the houses that are still not repaired. We receintly had major flooding here in Ohio. What did they do? People went to a school, cleaned the football stadium so they could have a football game. They rolled up their sleeves and went to work. Down south, there are still mold infested houses slowly falling down from two years ago. Why is this? If people are willing to make an effort, fine, help them. If not fuck em. Third act, Iraq. The Iranian president has said that the 'occupation forces in Iraq are faltering, and with the change of leadership they will soon be leaving, creating a power vacuum, they are ready to step in and fill that vacuum." Layman's terms, went the US pulls out we are going in. This can't be allowed to happen, whats' more they can not be allowed to have nuclear weapons, no matter what. Iran either backs down, or begins to glow, fuck em either way.

2331.11 Privilege from arrest. (A) The following persons are privileged from arrest: (1) Members, the chief administrative officer of the house of representatives, the clerk of the house of representatives, clerks, sergeants at arms, and staff of the senate and house of representatives, during the sessions of the general assembly, and while traveling to and from such sessions; (2) Electors, while going to, returning from, or in attendance at elections; (3) Judges of the courts, while attending court, and also during the time necessarily employed in going to, holding, and returning from the court that it is their duty to attend; (4) Attorneys, bailiffs, clerks of courts, sheriffs, coroners, constables, plaintiffs, defendants, jurors, and witnesses, and other officers or employees of the court, while going to, attending, or returning from court; (5) Persons who, on their traditional day of worship, are within, going to, or returning from their place of worship, are worshipping at a service, or are going to or returning from a service. (B) Whoever arrests a person in violation of division (A) of this section shall pay one hundred dollars, to be recovered by civil action, in the name and for the use of the person injured. Effective Date: 03-09-1999 2331.12 Days on which arrests may not be made. No person shall be arrested during a sitting of the senate or house of representatives, within the hall where such session is being held, or in any court of justice during the sitting of such court, or on Sunday or on the fourth day of July. Effective Date: 10-01-1953 2331.13 Application. Sections 2331.11 to 2331.14, inclusive, of the Revised Code do not extend to cases of treason, felony, or breach of the peace, nor do they privilege any person specified in such sections from being served with a summons or notice to appear. Arrests not contrary to such sections made in any place or on any river or watercourse within or bounding upon this state are lawful. Effective Date: 10-01-1953 NOPE.... It's bullshit. Unless you are in a count proceeding on Sunday or on the Fourth of July. When was the last time you heard of anyone being in court on a Sunday, let alone the Fourth of July. The only loophole is the church thing, being arrested going to or returning from church. And that is only being arrested, not cited for traffic violations which is not an arrest. And the disorderly conduct could be a charge if you were to resist arrest on the basis of this law, thereby cricumventing it's protection.

How much for the whole truck? Blown engine and all.

Jesus, If mileage had anything to do with performance or streetability, my 9 MPG 1 Ton Chevy truck would stomp the ass of all comer's. Now mind you, I will out cruise many, as I have 2 30 gallon tanks and a 125 gallon I can drop in the bed and carry more fuel than any car. But I still have a stock 454 that's rated at a ball bustin 195 HP and its' trying to move 7400 pounds of truck, so I am lucky if I can turn a 17.0 ET. Quit yer bench racin, and yer e-battling. Do 30 miles and then race, if your car can't do thirty miles, it ain't a street car, at least not something that could be driven daily.

Yeah, gonna be BS on this one. Is it possible, sure. Problem is it's not fucking practical. A car engine could be turned into an air motor with a different cam and some other minor mods. The real issue is getting enough air storage to get the thing to run long enough to get down your driveway and back up. Look at it with air powered paint ball. Those tanks are 4500 psi. But the air compressed in them is about 20 cubic feet. So even if you had a 4500 lb air supply, then you would need a regulator that would flow enough to drop it down to 600 PSI and still flow enough to fill the cylinders at a reasonable rate. And the size of the tank would need to be as big as a car for it to be useful for more than a few minutes. Then look at what it would take to fill the tanks. If you had a 500 gallon tank that was at 4500 PSI, it would take all night to bring it up to pressure. And compressing air to that sort of pressure requires alot of energy. So we are talking about either a 8 horse gas motor, or a 10 horse electric at bare minimum. Now since we all have single phase electric and not commercial 3 phase, the load as the compressor would get to pressure would be about 75 amps. That would be similar to 4 electric dryers running all night in your house. Your electric bill would be in the thousands of dollars, or you would be listening to the drone of a lawnmower engine all night, and feeding it gas. The energy would need to come from somewhere, it's not like you could hook a tire pump to it and produce the 600 PSI needed for it to run.

yep, that's pretty much the truth.. The other thing that no one here has mentioned, Even if an MP3 had 50 times the quality of CD audio, the biggest limiting factor is the source of the recording that the MP3 is ripped from. If you have a drive full of these way better than CD quality MP3's that are ripped from an 8 Track tape, it's never going to be any better than the 8 track tape was when you recorded it to begin with. Now, someone i bound to mention the current level of DSP that can clean up that 8 track tape recording and remove the hiss and flutter from it. This is true, but you will NEVER restore the frequency range of the original performance or it's dymanic range for that matter. This is why for some people, records still are king. You honestly have no idea what good sound reproduction is until you go listen to a classical music recording on a Telarc disk played on a $4000 plus record player. It's truely unreal. Take a trip up to campus to the stereo shop some time and politely ask them for a demonstration of the difference, be assured you can hear it, expecially with something with alot of dynamic range to it like the 1812 overture. The Telarc recording was done with real cannon fire and not a dubbing or recording or that sound. CD's you only hear a loud boom, and typical recordings it is muddy, through the right stuff, it's like you are lighting the cannon yourself. BTW, be up front with them at the store, the stuff they have in there, at least part of it, the stuff I am talking about would cost as much as a new car.

I assume it's a non-turbo truck. What mileage does it get? What are you specifically looking for as a trade? I got more stuff than Carter has liver pills. Drag car roller, motors, a built turbo 350 trannie with a trans brake... all sorts of stuff. Let me know.

Ok, here's the skinny on it. A tow dolly does NOT need plates it the car that's on it has VALID plates. If a trailer is large enough that it requires lighting (weight it is tagged to haul is what specifies this), it requires a plate. Also any trailer that you add lighting to, regardless of it's size needs a plate. Meaning that a car trailer or any trailer that it, or it's load will block the view of the rear lights of the vehicle towing it will require both lighting and a plate. Hope this helps. And regardless of what ANYONE including me tells you, call the BMV to verify it.

There is one that runs around Johnstown and Newark. It's a daily driver believe it or not, rusted out rear fenders and non-matching wheels on it. I am sure that the guy has no clue what he's driving around in.

Need to post again, for your reading pleasure http://www.geocities.com/athens/crete/3450/communism.html Pay specific attention to number 21. This is the agenda of the ACLU. They discredit the constitution by twisting it says something it does not. By doing so, it discredits the document.

:funny: Gee Eli, I went back and read the original post, it was about a kid doing omething silly and the ACLU. Seems this thread has gone off on it's own tangent. Yeah, I can use them big words too. I know, you're a genius. Your screen name clearly spells it out how proud you are of your vast intellect and superior intelligence level. I know you feel that we should just shut up and bow when you speakand somehow feel blessed that you have shared your superior intelligence level with those of us that are beneath you. Here's the thing, you can be realy fucking smart and still be wrong. Not only that, but you can be far superior and still have someone disagree with your opinion. Just because you passed the Mensa test doen't mean that your opinions are automatically transformed into facts. So please, continue to pontificate oh wise one, us dumb ass rednecks will continue to laugh hysterically at your 'facts'.

hmmm, how has this turned into a discussion about the second amendment? What I read in the original post was about the ACLU and ultimately how that group of lawyers have twisted the meaning of the Constitution into something it doesn't specifically say and was NEVER meant to mean. Take the freedom of religion. It says that government shall make no law that puts any religion before another, or show preference to a specific religion. I don't know that they have done so. Can anyone show me where there is a law on the books that says that it's better to be Christian that Jewish? How about the one that says that it's illegal to be Hindu? I haven't seen them, chances are that you haven't either. The ACLU turns this into something else, arguing that putting the word God on money is somehow wrong. Oddly enough, the ones that argue that it shouldn't be there are self proclaimed Athiest's, which is a religion by the truest sense of the word. And the odd thing is that they don't believe in God at all. Well, I don't know that I do myself, I really do question the whole higher power thing, and think it's about as real as the Easter bunny or that some fat bastard drives 8 reindeer all over the world and hands out toys that are made by little midgets. But my take on it is this, we are free to believe what ever we want and need to respect that and the majority. If that is the belief of the majority then let them have it. Their beliefs are not hurting me, and don't effect me in any way. Every Christmas I take my kid to see some guy in a red suit that stinks of gin, stares at the asses of the 18 yr old female 'helpers' in their green spandex. Why? Because it makes him happy and it doesn't hurt him any more than any other kid when he gets to the age that they find out the truth about the guy in the red suit. Truth is that the ACLU is not about the majority, which is what this whole system is suppose to be based on. It jumps in the corner of the 5 assholes that seem to want to ruin it for the lot of us by twisting shit. Somewhere there is a line. Where does it exist? When they ban the Christmas parade because it's held on a public street? Is it when the chruches are no longer allowed to display a cross or the Jewish candle holder for the 12 days outside their place of worship? (Sorry Anthony I don't know what that's called.) How about they start marching anyone off to jail that where's a Star of David or a cross around their neck, will it be enough at that point or will you stand quietly and allow the ACLU to wipe religion from the USA completely and turn the places of worship into parking lots and housing developments. These folks are no different than any other activist group. You all want to talk about the second amendment. Do you honestly believe that the anti-gun folks will stop with banning assault rifles? How about hand guns? They will keep going, it will be hunting rifles and shotgun's after that, and we will have nothing in the way of firearms. When they reach that goal, they will move on to archery equipment, then knives, 5 cell mag lights and anything else they feel could be a weapon. That is plain old human nature. Greed and satisfaction. The greed is wanting more and then the satisfaction of getting what they want.

I completely agree with the idea of trying to keep polutio to a minimum. This is we have been doing that for a long time, both through personal acts of not throwing shit from car windows going down the road to the technology of scrubbers on smoke stacks at the power plants and industrial boilers. Take a look at this http://pratie.blogspot.com/2005/03/cuyahoga-river-fire-of-1969.html At one time this was common to happen because of the shit that we dumped into the waterways. Another thing that has changed, is transportation and it's effect on the envroiment. Coal burning steam engines, now a curiousity in a museium at one time had coal by the ton shoveled into the boiler and burnt very inefficently. The particulate matter in the exhaust was such that even burning embers would make it out of the stack and set fires beside the tracks in the dry grass. Power plants and industry poured untold amounts of particulate matter into the skies from their stacks, of course this too is a thing of the past. The stream train was replaced by the diesel / electric locomotive. The power plant stacks now are mandated to have scrubbers on them. The only thing that makes it to the top of the stack now is steam. Evriomentalists seem to have a nack for getting the right picture and twisting it. Look here. http://www.dramainnature.com/photograph_of_aps_power_plant_joseph_city_poster.htm Now that looks horrible if you don't know what you are looking at. First there is the cooling lake in from of the plant, and this seem's to have been taken in the early morning, a simple temperature inversion and we have fog. Farm ponds and creeks will do the same thing with the right conditions with no power plant for miles. Second thing, the stacks themselves. They are bollowing white smoke? White smoke, ain't smoke it's steam. To remain efficent as possible, power plant boilers use special power washer unit's inside of their running boilers to clean the surfaces so they can extract more heat from the fire. This is done before the scrubbers and is not a envriomential concern, but it does put on quite a show when water is sprayed into a boiler that's at 2800 degree's and under full fire. The water turns to steam and puts on a show. Higher up the stack, some scrubbers use water mists to wet the larger particulate matter and draw it down so it can be disposed of and not go up the stack. This to generates steam, but not to the point of the boiler washers. With the goverment regulations in place no one can dump smoke into the atmosphere any more. Another thing that technology has changed is the way we heat our homes. Coal at one time was not just put in a small stove, but rather delivered by the truck load, put down a chute into the basments of homes and burnt in boilers and furnaces that were auger fed and had again, really poor efficency, and smoked horribly. Something else that is little more than a curiousity and discussed by our pparents and grandparents as being 'back in the day'.

More Facts...... 1 Fahrenheit invented the Thermometer in 1724. 2 Record of temperatures were not kept until 1890 or so. 3 earth is 4.5 billion years old I ain't bothering to calculate what percentage 200 years is of 4.5 billion, point is that the data that we have is at best totally inconclusive. Here is an interesting site I found talking about global temperature. Cores fro the ice on th south pole have been taken that go back 420000 years and are displayed at the bottom. If you click on the smaller graph you can slide the yellow box and go back that far. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/Paleoclimatology_IceCores/ Now be you religous of be you not, the earth was mostly tropical at one point. iBible talks of Eden being a tropical paradise, and things have been found in Alaska that science says could not have got there if it weren't warm at some point. Now, religion aside, our beautiful state of Ohio has many of it's geographic features from the Ice Age, where ice a mile thick or better covered the entire state and went clear down to the Smokey mountains which were created by the ice according to science. Now of course the ice is gone and melted away. Who is to say that this event of the ice melting is not still taking place today. It's melting, and it hasn't ever grew since it started melting as far as science can tell. I can't sit here and say the planet is not changing, it is. Acre's of land are added yearly by volcano's. While land slides and erosion move earth from north to south across the USA from the Ohio down the Mississippi and into the Atlantic. The planet is in constant change, and we are simply along for the ride. Those that choose to follow the global warming movement, the global cooling movement that came before it, and every other global catastrophy that comes down the line. Be warned, at some point some day, just like Peter, you are going to be right, and you are going to cry wolf and no one will come because your bad science 'facts' based on opinions and all the rest of it will have tired the reasonable, forward thinking masses of people that we will not even care.

Dude, this just changes the sex. NOTHING is off limits now. Getting rid of her is simple, drop a load on her face then wipe your shit off with her hair, gonesville.

Errrr, this again. With ONLY wide open throttle being a concern, they are dead even. The manifold design will play into it some because one is more designed for wet flow and the other dry so taking a tunnel ram and drilling it for injectors and running throttle bodies on it and not carbs is going to have mixed results. But if you are taking money be damned, intake and fuel system on the same long block, they are dead fucking even. You need to remember that they both do the same thing, regulate air and fuel into the motor and keep it in the right mix so the motor can burn it and make power. the motor doesn't care what's on top it, it just wants to see the right amount of fuel and air for a specific horsepower level. The minute that it hits the street and you are talking about part throttle performance, while a carb can be tuned for it, it's where EFI shines because it will self tune if it's a closed system and it's tuned close. Carbs will go rich and lean through the throttle opening because they use the air flow through them to meter the fuel. Problem is that if you are at part throttle and you mash it, the air flow almost stops through the carb hence the need for an acclerator pump to richen the mixture so the motor doesn't fall on it's face. With EFI, the fuel is being sprayed on the back of the valve under pressure, its' going in the cylinder even if the air slows down. Carb's are also effected in a weird way with nitrous and it depends on the size of the shot as to how it reacts. An smaller shot will create a small flow increase in the carb because of the nitrous entering the manifold at such a high pressure. But if a big shot is in place, it can easily fill the intake with nitrous and fuel and make the air flow in the carb stop because the intake is full and the air has no where to go.

First off, Derick, by what you posted, specifically changed or "fixed" about some one being poor, impoverished and then grabbing themselves by the boot straps and pulling their life up to a better level, then being 'brainwashed' by the right into not caring for the plight of others welfare is exactly what I am getting at with what I said. They more than anyone else realize that you create your situation, and only you can rectify your situation if it's unacceptable to you. The guy that gets out of the shelter, into his own place and works proves the point. Now, it's not that I don't care about the general welfare of others. And BTW, I commend you for taking in someone that is down on their luck and HELPING them to get back on their feet. This is the way it should work, we as a nation should take care of each other, because we want to and it's the right thing to do, not because the government tells us that we are going to. Consider this, if a single mother lived next to you came over and knocked at your door. She explained to you that she wasn't working currently and needed assistance with some food for her and her kids. You, I, and everyone else on this board for that matter would pause only long enough to fine our keys, put on our shoes and take her to the store and get her a couple bags of food. And not think anything of it other than to good feeling that you get from doing something of this nature. And many of us, if things were a bit tight for us at that time, would skip the trip out to eat that week just to do something like this, because we feel it's more important. Now, a week goes by, and the same girl is back, but it's only been a week and getting a job is difficult. Off to the grocery we go again. But after we get back we see that she's across the street, with the same story for the neighbor, who takes her for food as well. Now you are paying closer attention to her during the week, and she home all day doing nothing. The week come and goes, and she's beating on the door again. At this point, or at some point you finally tell her to get a fucking job. Thing is that every week, the federal government takes money that we worked hard for and gives it to people that didn't work for it. I am not talking about the truly disabled either, we should have things in place to care for those that are incapable of taking care of themselves. The rest of them that can work should work. This is where you get the division between a liberal and a conservative. The conservative will help out of his pocket without batting an eye, as long as it's assistance and not a hand out. The liberal will take from anyone that has more than the other guy and give it to him and claim that it's only fair. Here's a good example, the company I work for has adopted an elementary school, we bought every child a coat, hat and gloves in the late fall for the past two years. Our employee's go over and tutor the students and more than anything show some level of caring and support to them. Nothing says anywhere that we have to, we simply choose to because some of those kids (a vast majority) need a break, and a helping hand. The government's course of action to deal with this is to take, by force if necessary, (and don't believe for one minute that if you don't pay your taxes and the feds seize your house that they will not remove you by force and jail you) money that you worked for and hand it to their parents, without regard to the way that they care for the very children that money is suppose to pay for.

I love this entrapment shit. So you are aware... There is a policy with the State Patrol that they will have their marker lights on at minimum when their car is within so many feet of the road way. It's a policy, not even a rule, and it's for the safety of the officer not because writing tickets blacked out is entrapment. The only other regulation having to do with issuing citations is a minimum distance to the edge of the roadway if running radar because of odd things that can happen with doplar shift (what makes radar work) causing inacurate readings, but that I beleive was repealed with the newer technology radar units being rolled out. Go look here for the truth. http://onlinedocs.andersonpublishing.com/oh/lpExt.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&cp=PORC

Democrats feed off of the misery of the impoverished. As soon as one of them climbs out of their hole through hard work and self-responsibility, they become Rush Limbaugh faithfuls who allow themselves to be bullshitted and ignore the plight of others. How is it fixed???? You are stating nothing but fact here. Other than being bullshitted? And like I said before, if you aren't doing your own fact finding and verification, then you deserve to be bullshitted. As far as ignoring the pligt of others, yeah, you're right. I don't give a fiddler's flying fuck about someone else's problems. I have my own set of problems to contend with. How many homeless people are you currently letting shack up at your place? How many single mothers are you taking to the grocery store each week and buying food for? When it was really fucking cold a few weeks's ago, just how many blankets did you load in the back of your car and go hand out to people sleeping on the street? You and I both know the answer to that. All those people made desisions in their lives that have ultimately landed them where they are. No one forced them to make those desisions, they made them of their own free will and are now paying the piper. Life here is pretty simple, get an education, get a job, get shelter (house, apt or what ever) and then pay for it all because you have a job, because you got an education. Simple enough, it's called capitalism. Now, the government taking your money that you make from your job providing housing and food for everyone that has their hand out is called socialism. You can call it aid, or assistance or what the fuck ever, it's still socialism. I worked for it, I made it and those that didn't are NOT somehow entitled to it. It's really just that simple.

Hmmm, calling Edwards a fag is a bit strong, but I am going to guess she didn't mean it in a literal sense. His personal preferences of playing the skin flute are really academic in reality. Now the bulk of you are aware that I am a conservative Republican, that is waay to the right. But I don't get my news from Rush, or Ann or even Shawn H. Personally I believe that Limbaugh is the most self absorbed ass on the planet, but he will bring topics to the table that you are not hearing about on the major news outlets. Here is where the conservative and the liberal part ways. I take the topic and research it, go on a fact finding mission. And the important thing is I look at both sides (liberal / conservative sources) and then base my opinions on that. Take global warming, there is more proof that is a bunch of shit than anyone can reasonably question. Hell, look at the fact that the data used to base the whole theory has at best been gathered in the last 200 years. The planet is 4.5 billion years old, so looking at it from a purely scientific perspective, and going with the rule of scientific experimentation and variance and tolerance how can any one base and finding on such a small percentage of data in the grand scope of it, yet there are people with the agenda of pushing forward with trying to control this, not being able to actually quantify what they claim to be trying to control. Layman's terms is this. If I call one or you an asshole, and everyone else says your not, does it make you an asshole just because one person said it? You can't base fact on opinion, it don't work that way. As far as Edwards, I will say if nothing else, Ann Coulter is honest if not blunt. And this is part of what I liked about Bush bt to me, none of the political heads take it far enough. Saying "If you're not with us you're against us" is politically correct banter. Say " If your harboring these bastards, we are going to come and get them and fuck your country up doing it, and run you out of power while we are there." Then you have their attention. Seems that we did a bit of that, and we are doing some more of it. But we ain't done yet. The next group to say that to is Mexico. We need to tell them if they are not going to keep their people from crossing the border, we will consider it a threat to our nation and will be invading and taking over down there as well.

That is the greatest effort for exerting the fact that you are truely an asshole and make no bones about that fact. No the guys work and effort were not the greatest, but he was satisfied with it. Save shit like that for the fucks that build their own ricer wing or wooden body kit.

Naaaa, icy-hot. Give him something to really remember. And don't forget, that don't forget, that stuff doesn't get hot right away, and the better you rub it in the hotter it gets. Perfect solution.

Fuck flying...... I don't trust the planes or the grease monkeys that keep them in the sky that much. If my car breaks down, I coast to a stop along side of a road some place and stick out my thumb. If a plane experiences certain failures, it falls out of the sky at 300 MPH while I sit on it with my head between my knees kissing my ass goodbye. I like the thumb thing better.

For those that care, the reason that this happened is that magnesium burns at 5400 degree's F. At this temperature it will break the bonds of water and you get this: Magnesium (solid) + steam → Magnesium hydroxide (aqueous) + Hydrogen (gas) Of course Hydrogen gas is really explosive and will tend to ruin ones whole day if around it and a source of ignition. This video, while rather graphic is only a small reaction of water and burning magnesium. Some years back in Dayton there was a train derailment. Cars on the train were hauling white phosphorous and magnesium. White phosphorous has an interesting trait of being able to self ignite when exposed to Oxygen and also burns fairly hot. When those tankers broke open and it ignited, the fire quickly spread to the magnesium. Of course the fire then was amazing, and magnesium burns 10 times brighter than the sun so it was a site to see. The local firemen, not knowing much about hazardous chemicals, do what firemen do, put ass loads of water on it. Mind you with that much magnesium burning, the heat was very intense so they were no where close to the fire, but when the ass loads of water hit the fire the fireball that was created incinerated the firemen, their truck and several other things nearby. Something interesting, about magnesium and one of it's uses. The railroads use a mixture of steel filings and magnesium powder to weld track together. The mixture is put into a graphite lined crucible and put over a preheated joint to be welded. Once the track is to temperature, the fire is lit in the crucible and the steel filings are melted by the heat of the fire. A plug melts out of the bottom of the crucible and the molten steel pours out into a sand cast form that is sit around the joint. The whole process takes 3 minutes. Bottom line, if you ever have a car fire, and your car has magnesium in it, get the hell back, tell the firemen what they are dealing with so they can get back and let it burn. There are documented cases of transmissions making it through road beds and bridges because of the heat, which is so intense it will crumble concrete below it.