SupraGlue Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,63413,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFKINPowerz Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Imagine that. I see a lawsuit comming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Hahahahahaha!!!! Tree hugging hippies got screwed!!!!! Buwahahahahahaha!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig_twinkies Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 that sux,hate to be honda right now if they are all performing like that one. my dads old civic hatch got 45-50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 well thats what happens when you use old testing methods, simple evolution of technology. I still think hybird cars are better for the enviroment though, and according to the epa, on how they run there tests, hybirds are more enviromentally safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 +1 My Old Ass TURBO Beater gets that kind of mileage.. pfff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1647545498 Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 booooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony_K Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Law of conservation of energy > hybrid Honda. Where do you think it gets the juice to turn that big dynamo? Gas motor generates current that powers electric motor that helps the gas motor power the car? ...hmmpf.. When I first saw the Insight, with its light weight, swoopy lines, skinny tires, and poor performance, I immediately figured that its high mpg came more from all of the above than from its hybrid powertrain. Twenty years ago, magazines were reporting mid to upper 30s in mpg in honda civics and other Japanese cars. A couple of models managed to eek out over 40mpg in their testing. 20 years later where are we? If GM can get such good hwy miles out of the Vette (upper 20s, right?), why are econo cars not 50-60% better today? 1985 Porsche 944: 550 mapquested miles @80mph through the mountains in <17 gallons, just a few weeks ago. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Man, that's funny. People paid several thousand dollars more for their Hybrids as compared to an equivalent vehicle from the same manufacturer. Most never did the math to figure out to just break even, they had to drive their vehicles anywhere from 100-200k miles. And that was going by EPA estimates. Now the real world data comes out, that's thousands extra spent for very little gain at all. Of course, the cost of repairs is higher due to a more complicated drivetrain, crappy performance, etc. The consumer looses out big time. From the few prices I've seen on used Insights, their resale hasn't been all that hot either, espeically when compared to other Honda models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Originally posted by Tony_K: If GM can get such good hwy miles out of the Vette (upper 20s, right?), why are econo cars not 50-60% better today?upper 20's/low 30's I said this to a friend last week and I'll repeat it here: The Prius and the Insight have been engineered to have extremely low rolling resistance and some of the lowest Cd's of any production car. Put these on ANY car and they will produce better mpg. IMO a gas powered (non-hybrid) car with the same specs would perform similarly. Thats why GM's hybrid Silverado only uses the batterys to power the car while at rest, and not electric motors to move the car. The only place we should be looking is alternative fuels. We should be moving towards using E-85 for the near future. It's domestically produced, clean, higher compression ratio's can be used, more boost, more power, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! fucking hippies, The Diesel VW rabbits of the 80's got over 40mpg with ease, had 2 friends that could roll around for what seemed like forever with those little f*ckers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 I agree, move towards alernate fuel sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Pete Blackshaw is a Douchebag. What a geek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Octane Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Worst of all, these hybrid cars are butt ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 I was thinking about checking into the Civics with the hybrid engines after I got the S4 paid off, guess not now. What does the VW TDI engines get gas mileage wise? Brand New GLS (top of the line model, which will weigh more), Sub $20k Auto: 33/44 city/highway Manual: 38/46 city/highway And your driving around in a VW Golf instead of a Civic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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