iwishiwascool Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 John Stewart owns Crossfire http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2652831 This falls in line with my whole "team" rant that I go off about from time to time. Basicly being criticle of people who blindly choose a political side/part/candidate/team and become rhetoric repeaters that never invest much/any intellect into the ideas they are spouting. Stewart Is criticizing the hosts of the show for perpetuating a system flawed system. On in which members of each team are given public forums to spout the rhetoric and "talking points" of the party/side rather than actually addressing real issues with real answers all under the pretext of a Hard ass Debate show that asks the "hard" questions. The very nature of the show encourages the hosts to have opintions that are strictly defined based on whether they are left or right. People watch shows like crossfire, observe the supposed debate, walk away feeling more informed when they have, in fact, just been pumped with the same rhetoric the "team" is trying to shove in the faces of the american people on a daily basis. [its not meant to be infamitory as it doesnt support either "side", but mods can feel free to move this to SM if so inclined.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 I cannot see it, dial up owns me. Can a brutha get a transcript? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 hahahaha Stewart > retard in a bowtie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Originally posted by mesteno: hahahaha Stewart > retard in a bowtie.+1 HAHA Eric, you should get to a library and watch it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 this link might work: http://bitflood.org:8080/?file=791b2f5d95a54d1381b85f271b51f71e73964185 heres the transcript: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...0/15/cf.01.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Im downloading the torrent, Ill host it directly on my domain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Summed up quickly: - Jon said the guys on Crossfire are nothing more than puppets of each respective canidate. - Jon made a fairly weak point towards why he didn't ask Kerry tougher questions, by pointing out his show is a comedy show (IMO, it has a lot to do with Jon being a Kerry supporter). - Jon doesn't let the Crossfire guys control the interview at all. He tells them they are not doing what is beneficial to the public, and they have a huge, important, worthwhile opportunity to really do the right thing, and they are throwing it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 I think you kinda missed the point. It's not so much that they are puppets (which he did imply) but that Shows like Crossfire do nothing but push people farther to one side or the other. I thought his retort as to why he didnt ask the "tough questions" was pretty good: "You're on CNN. The show that leads into me is puppets making crank phone calls." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 www.iwishiwascool.net/Crossfire.wmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 ya know i used to watch the daily show all the time but the jokes got a little old, but this goes to show the intelligence of jon stewart, here is someone who goes and tries to talk to these guys for real and they give him the same song and dance as they would anyone else, the dude in the bowtie needs his ass beat a little beat so maybe he wouldn't be such an arrogant prick, but you know you can't blame these problems on the media, our society encourages this stuff, we don't reward honest at all, actually we seem to punish it more, we don't encourage integrity in anykind of profession, we only support whatever cause we believe in at the moment and will disregard when someone is an ass so our side will win something, just a reflection on how our culture works in a small scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jpurdy2003 Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Originally posted by a Car Enthusiast: ya know i used to watch the daily show all the time but the jokes got a little old, but this goes to show the intelligence of jon stewart, here is someone who goes and tries to talk to these guys for real and they give him the same song and dance as they would anyone else, the dude in the bowtie needs his ass beat a little beat so maybe he wouldn't be such an arrogant prick, but you know you can't blame these problems on the media, our society encourages this stuff, we don't reward honest at all, actually we seem to punish it more, we don't encourage integrity in anykind of profession, we only support whatever cause we believe in at the moment and will disregard when someone is an ass so our side will win something, just a reflection on how our culture works in a small scaleThe reason I have no faith in the American political process is that the average voter does not have the desire or attention span to grasp complex issues. This is why 99.999999999% of cable news "commentary" is retarded soapbox posturing from either the left or the right. This also explains why neither presidential candidate has really gone into detail about their plans for the next four years. John Q. Public is probably too apathetic or stupid to understand anything besides sloganeering and mudslinging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Originally posted by Nitrousbird: - Jon made a fairly weak point towards why he didn't ask Kerry tougher questions, by pointing out his show is a comedy show (IMO, it has a lot to do with Jon being a Kerry supporter)Do you even watch the Daily show? When your in the position they are in, and you get freaking presidential candidate as a guest, you dont not piss them off. he would hve shown the same respect to a republican..like John Mcain. Nahh, you didn't see the enterveiw with him, or Giuliani, or any other promintent republicans that they've had. You look at the one interveiw, and make it out to be a sign of partisanship. Originally posted by The Anti-Role Model: The reason I have no faith in the American political process is that the average voter does not have the desire or attention span to grasp complex issues. This is why 99.999999999% of cable news "commentary" is retarded soapbox posturing from either the left or the right. This also explains why neither presidential candidate has really gone into detail about their plans for the next four years. John Q. Public is probably too apathetic or stupid to understand anything besides sloganeering and mudslinging.Can I get an AMEN!? bowtie? Ohhh please tell me he smacked around Tucker Carlson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Jon for president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 I <3 boobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Rex Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 I just want to bump this because I have never seen anything like this before. This is by far one of the BEST clips I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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