Primera Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 For any metalheads on this forum, check out the band I've been helping out with. I've been filling in as their bass player (although I'm a guitar player) until they find a bass player who can keep up with the band. We recorded this demo in December. You might not like the vocals but just get past that and tell me if you are liking the music. Keep in mind the drummer is only 16 years old. myspace - The City is Ours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 My opinion: The "vocalist" needs to actually sing. Anyone can scream with no melody to cover up bad talent, if they want to try and make it big they need someone who can actually be vocal. Screaming is okay, but not constantly. Screaming is not music, it’s a brain hemorrhage. Guitars are okay, but could use a little more character in their part of the music. I hear too many of the same notes over again in different parts of the song. I'm sorry if you were the bassist in this song, but whoever it is cannot keep up with the drummer. Bass needs to accent the drums just as much (if not more) as the guitars and this person simply cannot keep up. They also spend too much time following the vocalist - that's the guitars job. The drummer is actually pretty friggen good for a 16 year old kid. He has a bright future with a band that can keep up with his talent. Overall, the band is pretty good. The only thing that seriously hurts them is the vocalist. You even admitted this. Drop that guy and get someone with talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primera Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Thanks for the feedback. I'm just curious as to why you think the bass isn't keeping up with the drums? There wasn't a single flaw in timing when I recorded it. And yes, I do know bass is supposed to go with drums more than anything and for the most part I do play with the drums. Keep the feedback coming. I posted this on CR because I know this board likes being brutally honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1647545498 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Yeah, I couldn't stand to hear it for more then 10 seconds because of all the screaming that was going on. graemlins/nonono.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Your vocalist needs to learn how to scream. If you listen to hardcore bands where they scream, you can actually understand what they are screaming, they aren't just going, raaaaawr raaawr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primera Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Yeah haha I know. I give him shit about that all the time. Like I said, I'm just filling in for them. If I was a permanent member of the band, I wouldn't have him as the vocalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1647545498 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 You should show the band this thread when everyone is done "reviewing". It's basically a free survey service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primera Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Originally posted by Mr. 2: You should show the band this thread when everyone is done "reviewing". It's basically a free survey service.That's actually what I was planning on doing. I'm only gonna be playing with them until the beginning of next month so I might as well try and help them out with some feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 good music bad singer reeeeeeeeeeeeally bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitamincj Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Yeah, I couldn't listen to the whole thing because of the screaming. I'm a sucker for double-bass so I enjoyed the drumming while I listened. I couldn't really isolate the bass guitar so can't comment on that. Less screaming would be an improvement. CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verse Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Tyler can't sing. He can only scream. He's good for background like he was in The Farewell Monument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excell Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Originally posted by deftapcubus: Thanks for the feedback. I'm just curious as to why you think the bass isn't keeping up with the drums? There wasn't a single flaw in timing when I recorded it. And yes, I do know bass is supposed to go with drums more than anything and for the most part I do play with the drums. I noticed a few points where the bass started traveling with the vocals, and further away from the drums. It wasn't for long, and were quick to correct. It's natural to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suffocateXfaster1647545505 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Another myspace amazing haha.. is that main picture from the Legion of Doom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old dirty bastard Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 My cat who was sitting on the desk before I played the song did a desk dive when the vocals started it was very funny to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 00Smurf Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 not bad music, vocals definatly could use some work. If you tune out all the screaming its got a very nice beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desperado Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Hmmm, the drummer is THE SHIT! That being said, did the guy that wrote the song take a failing try at being a rapper? The song sounds like, at least for the first two minutes, like a bad compilation of samples of other songs. It's all over the fucking place. Right at two minutes, it sounded good, your screamer (I refuse to call him a singer as I heard no singing, just bellering like someone that just lost a leg on a wheat thresher), actually got as close as I heard to being understandable. Tell your screamer to start smoking, and do alot of it. And drink plenty of water so he can get the sound he's looking for without needing to scream to achive it. And that puberity is coming and his voice will drop down and sound better at that point. And either get some better music, of become a cover band for awhile. Do good music, even if it's someones elses, if you have talent, it will sound better, if you have NO talent, the group will suck equally as much doing good music as the group will doing bad music. As far as the bassist specifically, I see you defending it, saying that ya, you WERE the bassist in this song. It's not that you are playing badly, but your experience is with playing lead I bet. Lead follows the singer, which is what you are doing, problem is he's all over the place. So following his is difficult at best. But the problem is coming with you following him at all, you as a bassist should be with the percusssion, not the lead singer. It's an easy mistake to make since you are use to playing lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primera Posted January 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 One problem I did have when I first started playing with them was that they had these 3 songs already written (along with 2 others). The reason I joined the band was so they could start getting some shows together so I wasn't really too concerned on sounding like a bass player (and that I'm just not used to it). I was just worried about learning all the songs real quick so no writing process was really taken in it from me. So for the most part, I just played what the guitar players were playing and then with little parts, I'd try to change it up a bit. There is a new song we wrote pretty recently where I actually could be mistaken for a bass player (not following vocals at all, just drums). But Feb 5th (my last show with them), I definitely will not touch another bass, just guitar graemlins/thumb.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 ditto to what everyone else said, the lead singer seems to be trying to do a Philip Anselmo (pantera) or Kud (Mudvayne) impression. Not very original or entertaining. The rest of the music was good, although the riffs are short and repitittus (sp?) and I found myself begging for a change to come soon. they could learn alot form these people http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgs8.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 My cousin is the bassist a band called ISIS that you guys remind me a little of. They are actually really moving forward and getting some big deals. He's touring in Japan and Australia right now, with the UK on the horizon, but if all goes well he should be opening for Tool on their next tour. They are really good friends with Justin Chancellor Check out their website at www.Sgnl05.com Their MP3 section is pretty good, Panopticon is their newest release and I think it's pretty sweet. As for my critique, I think you guys need to be a bit more innovative. Thats not to say however, that you can't pick up hints from other bands. Hell, in my old band I thought I wrote a song (i'm a bassist) that was completely off the hook. Then I realized I'd stolen the riff from Weezer without even realizing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark_Viper01 Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Honestly, the music part was not that bad with the exception of the formentioned bass goofs, but it seemed to me that it could be a little more orginised, like there was too much time, and no flow between riffs. I think the singer could tone it down a bit and be ok, although he may be better suted for backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevil Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Good music. The vocalist started off terrible but later on it wasn't too bad... he could definitely work on the dynamics a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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