Guest FBody Addict Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Just broke down(no, not my car this time) and finally gave in to someone trying to convince me to drive thier 1.6l vtec civic and see that it was actually fast. What a waste of my time. No power until 4,000 rpm, manual shift in an automatic on it sucked, the kid has $1,000 in the engine, and my bone stock T/A that weighs 4300 lbs with 190hp is still faster. How much does it cost to make one of these things fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Moving To Flame Room..Its inevitable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FBody Addict Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 No prob, it wasn't really a flame, but if you see the need, it's cool, I do see what you are saying though, this is gonna be a V-8 vs. VTEC thread probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badasskylark Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 was this an automatic civc ex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonnygts Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I have a non Vtec 1.6 motor. The only thing i noticed is that i lose alot of power when from 7500-8000 rpm. My friend has a GS-R motor and his pulls stronger and stronger till red line. Im not a fan of Vtec and i dont think it makes ur car uber fast, I do think it helps keep the power up in the higher rpms tho. Just what Ive noticed. What does ur TA run anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 if he has a 305 it is probably as slow as a honda anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevil Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 VTEC is a little bit faster than the regular non-VTEC engines. It switches cam profiles at a certain RPM, for more HP. The problem is, it's a 1.6L so it has hardly any torque compared to your car. A VTEC car as fast as your TA probably wouldn't feel like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FBody Addict Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Originally posted by Chris Greene = weak sauce: if he has a 305 it is probably as slow as a honda anywaysNo, just a little bit faster Originally posted by The Anti-Rice: What does ur TA run anyway?Not sure, I'm thinking low 15's to high 15's it also has a 2.77 rear end = more slowness But, the question was, how much do you have to spend to make one fast? 3 times the amount to make an sbc fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1647545498 Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 I have a 1.6L smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 305's aren't cheep to make fast, desperado was telling me of some buildup that was a ton of money and only got like 300 hp out of it, 305 are best suited for boat anchors, trust me i have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olds455 Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 You're suprised that an auto Honda wasn't fast? My old stock '96 auto Civic EX ran 18.60's. graemlins/lol.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FBody Addict Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Originally posted by Rump Ranger: 305's aren't cheep to make fast, desperado was telling me of some buildup that was a ton of money and only got like 300 hp out of it, 305 are best suited for boat anchors, trust me i have oneso do I, and that is why i'm building a 350 (yeah yeah, i know, redneck with V-8 and a jegs catalog) Originally posted by Ricochet: Take a ride in my car sometime. I wouldn't call it "fast" but it's not slow like the grocery-getter you drove.What's it run, I may have to take you up on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street pilot Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 ricochet nailed it. For some reason everyone thinks vtec = fast. (or supposedly) Not the case at all. Most are there to give an economy car a boost for passing, or get better gas mileage. The only ones that really see a decent difference in power solely with the addition of vtec are the 99-01? civic si, preludes, and integra gsrs. So to answer your question... No. smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Originally posted by Slow As Hell 86 T/A: so do I, and that is why i'm building a 350 (yeah yeah, i know, redneck with V-8 and a jegs catalog) best thing for ya, can't beat a 350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_t0wn Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Originally posted by Slow As Hell 86 T/A: How much does it cost to make one of these things fast?bout twee fidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FBody Addict Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 kid i work with has a DOHC 2.2l VTEC(i believe that is the size, not sure) dyno'd yesterday at 235 hp, but he forgot torque rating. isn't it true that overhead cam engines have less torque? and the way this thread has been, was the best place really the kitchen? i did not intend to flame VTEC at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVILGTP98 Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Fast is all based on perspective... If you spent your life driving a Ford Festiva then the Vtech yo would be hella quick fo sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 VTEC is supposed to be fast, right?no, dumbass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FBody Addict Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Originally posted by Orion: no, dumbass.in that case, i'm not the dumbass, it's the stupid ricer kids who think that thier car is fast just because its a VTEC i know there are hardly any fast 4 bangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck531 Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 If you think Richochet's car is fast.. you aughta ride in my turd of a Lumina. I put about 3 ars on you Richochet? tongue.gif It's all good, you going to be out tomorrow night? I'll have my 18's on.. maybe it'll be a better race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Originally posted by Slow 86 T/A: in that case, i'm not the dumbass, it's the stupid ricer kids who think that thier car is fast just because its a VTEC i know there are hardly any fast 4 bangersIgnorance is fun!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Originally posted by Republicant: Ignorance is fun!!thats why you are still allowed on the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Kinda hard to insult someone when your avatar message is "I'm too stupid to figure out not to fuck with people".... Was it you with blood in his vomit last week, or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Originally posted by Slow 86 T/A: in that case, i'm not the dumbass, it's the stupid ricer kids who think that thier car is fast just because its a VTEC i know there are hardly any fast 4 bangersyou are the one who asked the question, so, you are the dumbass, dumbass. and, anytime you want to see how slow my 4 cylinder is, ill be happy to show you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest h23it Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Originally posted by Hoosier Daddy: VTEC is a little bit faster than the regular non-VTEC engines. It switches cam profiles at a certain RPM, for more HP. The problem is, it's a 1.6L so it has hardly any torque compared to your car. A VTEC car as fast as your TA probably wouldn't feel like it.Not really. The biggest thing I've noticed about every vtec car I've ever driven or ridden in is that they have no pull until 3800 rpms (give or take). Little engines, no torque, a little horse once you finally reach it, I'm a Honda guy and I don't like vtec. The only vtec motor I have been impressed with is the b18 and I'm still disappointed with its take off... again, not enough pull at low rpms. Everyone thinks the h22 is a great motor, but the h23 is probably the most under rated motor Honda ever built(for those that don't know the h22 is a 2.2 vtec and the h23 is a 2.3 non-vtec, they were both prelude motors and there was some competition as to which was better). Yes, the h23 is about 20 hp shy of the h22 stock, but the hp curve is much smoother and its got the most torque of any Honda motor other than the crv when you need the torque (at lower rpms). Just my opinion, but I would own a non-vtec Honda way before a vtec. Neither of my cars are vtec, I opted for the non-vtec versions of both. I mean look at my sig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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