rl Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 As John said in another thread, when you make power, shit happens, stuff breaks, and usually you can't do much about it. You fix it and move on. Exactly, when your going fast you break parts occasionaly. I cant wait to see what you end up doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rane Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Yes I really wanted to race you. Would have been a good race if that number guess was accurate. I figured you'd take your car there, just don't let them use the same machine shop there using for my car :-p. As far as I know no progress has been made besides ordering parts since the last time I was out and raced linn one on turbo. Not that IPS can do anything besides wait for the guy to give them my motor back. Also, neither of you guys ran vs. the black Z thats there now :-p? I would have liked to see a video of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renner Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Of course the car is going to IPS. As I've said a time or two before, they are the only people who have earned my trust to even touch the car. Thanks. IPS held onto my friend’s car all summer (June till late Sep) but the final product was immaculate. Again good luck tilly Which car was your friend’s? Just curious. I figured you'd take your car there, just don't let them use the same machine shop there using for my car :-p. As far as I know no progress has been made besides ordering parts since the last time I was out and raced linn one on turbo. Not that IPS can do anything besides wait for the guy to give them my motor back. Also, neither of you guys ran vs. the black Z thats there now :-p? I would have liked to see a video of that. It is a good machine shop (that’s why they are so busy), unfortunately it has just become a black hole for parts lately. The cylinder head for Mike’s Evo has been down there for quite a while now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPS Mike Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 yes my head has been there for a min. but customer work comes first as it always has. I will get it back soon enough. As for mike at Philips i wouldn't have anyone else build my motor, and yes that is why he is so busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rane Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Apparently my motor is done now, Rawr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Yes I really wanted to race you. Would have been a good race if that number guess was accurate. Your car is capable of hanging with a 3,000lbs car with 700rwhp from a roll? Damn, you got a quick ride. I guess you'll have to wait a few months for that race. However, when we get together, I guarantee you that I'll be bringing at least 700rwhp (and at an a/f ratio that won't grenade my pistons). That Z better be all its cracked up to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Phillips does excellent work. That's who's doing my machine work this winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTI Stroker Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Your car is capable of hanging with a 3,000lbs car with 700rwhp from a roll? Damn, you got a quick ride. I guess you'll have to wait a few months for that race. However, when we get together, I guarantee you that I'll be bringing at least 700rwhp (and at an a/f ratio that won't grenade my pistons). That Z better be all its cracked up to be! 700rwhp? what was ur horsepower n/a? what size shot were u using? Just curious!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 700rwhp? what was ur horsepower n/a? what size shot were u using? Just curious!!!! My initial use of the 700rwhp figure was somewhat faceitious - it was in reference to what power my car was making just before I blew a hole in my piston. In all probability, even as lean as it must have been, it probably wasn't putting down 700rwhp, but, it was probably close to that. My second use of the 700rwhp figure, which is in the comment you quoted, refers to the power levels that I expect my car to be at come next spring. I dynoed 500rwhp on a 100-shot and the stock airbox, which was restricting the nitrous flow substantially. At the time my car took a shit, the stock airbox was gone and so was that 100-shot. So, I'll leave it up to you to tell me how much hp I was actually making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 300rwhp. I don't think your car liked the carbon fiber cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Which car was your friend’s? Just curious. Silver 300zx, I heard some mishaps had occured but things in the end were still smoothe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 300rwhp. I don't think your car liked the carbon fiber cam or maybe you forgot to re-attach some vacuum hoses. <i crack myself up> love you, ant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lustalbert Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Id rather wait all summer and know it was done right then have someone rush it through. It took 5 months for my shortblock to get done, but damn I know it was done right. (Thiels Macine, Upper Sandusky. Caters to tractor pulling) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rane Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 The couple hundred pounds will probably make the difference if/when we race. And rather or not I end up with a spool shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 or maybe you forgot to re-attach some vacuum hoses. <i crack myself up> love you, ant. You say it better in bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Renner, when you type, I read. Your explainations are detailed so that you don't have to live under the hood to understand them. Thank you. BTW this is Bimmerjoe, minus the Bimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 It looks like you knocked the electrode off the plug, it bounced around for a sec and made itself a hole! just my 2 cent's! If you spray it , You will break it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desperado Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 It's funny Despo, you poking at people trying to diagnose this failure, but then trying yourself. So you think it was lean enough to somehow “start burning the aluminum in the piston top”, but didn’t detonate? Please, explain to me exactly what it is you think happens when an engine runs lean. Oh wait, never mind, please don’t. Cylinder temps go up, shit melts, and yes, if ther is enough heat and ample supplies of oxygen aluminium will burn. Did you FIND the piece of the piston that's missing? And can you explain how detonation and pre-ignition differ?? The pistons are black because the car was driven from Sam’s house to the shop. John knew it was hurt already, and they had it up and running a few times at Sam’s anyway, so they figured why bother towing it. So the color of anything in the combustion chamber is far from representative of how it was running when the failure occurred. Driving a car when it has a bunch of beat up spark plugs tends to make the combustion appear a bit on the rich side. Here again, if you had read the post, I said guess, how would I have known he ran it al all ofter it blew. But I am sort of curious, since the motor is mutliport EFI, and to O2 sensor would have been seeing some level of almost raw fuel, and would have tried to pull fuel from it to get it back in tune, why would it have still been rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUTAN TA1647545492 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Yes I really wanted to race you. Would have been a good race if that number guess was accurate. I figured you'd take your car there, just don't let them use the same machine shop there using for my car :-p. As far as I know no progress has been made besides ordering parts since the last time I was out and raced linn one on turbo. Not that IPS can do anything besides wait for the guy to give them my motor back. Also, neither of you guys ran vs. the black Z thats there now :-p? I would have liked to see a video of that. If im not mistaken wasnt IPS waiting on a set of cams for your car and that was the hold up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Cylinder temps go up, shit melts, and yes, if ther is enough heat and ample supplies of oxygen aluminium will burn. Did you FIND the piece of the piston that's missing? And can you explain how detonation and pre-ignition differ?? Here again, if you had read the post, I said guess, how would I have known he ran it al all ofter it blew. But I am sort of curious, since the motor is mutliport EFI, and to O2 sensor would have been seeing some level of almost raw fuel, and would have tried to pull fuel from it to get it back in tune, why would it have still been rich. MMMMmmmmm Keith, GM PCMs can only pull/add fuel dependent on trim +/-16.4%, after that they set a DTC. Spark Plugs with no electrodes...well...they don't...you know...fire? With over half the plugs down and out, I think its safe to say the computer would not be able to compensate for such an epic mechanical problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest powers Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Here again, if you had read the post, See, there is the problem. No one reads your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rane Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 IPS was waiting on everything, for along time. Then for the machine work to get done wich took alot longer. Its all there now and awaiting re-assembly. All is well. Cams what cams. I just was getting my name engraved on my exhaust!! And, and those one cool door jam things that say 300zx...And a type R sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudiOn19s Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 John, Sorry to hear of your misfortune...best of luck with the new project. Long visits to the shop should always be followed by a good detail...it's worth 2mph on the big end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiumss Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Sorry to read about your engine. The stock pistons can only handle so much N20 with stock Z06 compression. A pair of twins with a 383 sure would be nice under that hood of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renner Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Cylinder temps go up, shit melts, and yes, if ther is enough heat and ample supplies of oxygen aluminium will burn. I think you are confusing the word burn with melt. In a running engine, aluminum does not “burn”, it melts or fractures. The boiling point for pure aluminum is 2200C (4000F), for a cast aluminum alloy it is several hundred degrees higher. And this is just the point where aluminum becomes a stable liquid that can undergo a phase change, this is not the temp where aluminum actually ignites and combusts. The combustion (or burning) temp is of course much higher. Just because you have seen a beer can melt in a camp fire with a cool green flame doesn’t mean that it somehow applies to what happened to John’s piston. And can you explain how detonation and pre-ignition differ?? Um, I already did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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