Joe Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 I am sure there has to be at least one around here, but does anyone know of a dynojet tuner in this area? I have a few ideas, and unfortunately, will need some custom dyno time! I wouldnt mind renting the dyno from Brian and bring the tuner there. I called Brock's Performance, and they dont have in in house dyno, and he is far to busy to come dyno my bike for what I want to do with it, but told me I get free map support with the purchase of a pipe and PC3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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potentn2o Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Talk to Joe Morasco at MSP Suzuki in Heath. He uses a DynoJet dyno along with the DynoJet "Tuning Link" software. "Tuning Link" software ties together the dyno software to you Power Commander software. Basically. You enter a target air/fuel ratio for whatever throttle position you want and based on the readings it gets from the dyno's wideband, it writes the map for you. I'm sure you could do the same manually, but this takes far less time with less dyno pulls on your bike. I have never seen it in use, but hear it's really nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 creative custom choppers in delaware ohio not really a good recommendation for various reasons 1. kelly doesn't own it there anymore 2. they don't use a dyno jet 3. and i really doubt that the new guy that owns it knows a whole lot about tuning, let alone a brand new zx14r just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 creative custom choppers in delaware ohio I wasnt sure if Kelly did that or not. Got their number? I know RL knows them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I have my own place now, Kelly doesnt own CCC anymore (its now cheshire choppers) one of the guys that works there knows sport bikes pretty well (He went to school for them in FL) however I dont know how well any of them know how to tune. Their number is 740-362-0694 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ITR Guy Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I am sure there has to be at least one around here, but does anyone know of a dynojet tuner in this area? I have a few ideas, and unfortunately, will need some custom dyno time! I wouldnt mind renting the dyno from Brian and bring the tuner there. I called Brock's Performance, and they dont have in in house dyno, and he is far to busy to come dyno my bike for what I want to do with it, but told me I get free map support with the purchase of a pipe and PC3. brocks performance ftw on the zx14!!!!! excelent choice their pipe sounds wicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 brocks performance ftw on the zx14!!!!! excelent choice their pipe sounds wicked. Brock doesnt dyno tune, and isnt interested in doing what I am thinking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Just use his custom map and see if it needs anything from there. Normally his maps are spot on. If all else fails, take it to Dayton and have him tweak it at American Made like he does with everyone elses bikes...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Just use his custom map and see if it needs anything from there. Normally his maps are spot on. If all else fails, take it to Dayton and have him tweak it at American Made like he does with everyone elses bikes...... See, thats the problem I am ealing with. Brock wont supply a map without a purchase of pipe and PC3. I am not getting a pipe, but am getting a PC3. I am still trying to sweet talk him into a "base map" for the mods I have planned though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Why bother with a PC-3 if you aren't getting a pipe? Unless you plan to go TURBO, you're going to need a custom tune anyway. If you aren't going TURBO why do any mods WITHOUT a pipe in conjunction? You would just be keeping other mods down and restrict total output!?!? Have you read any of his write ups on the ZX-14? A pipe would be at the top of my list if not for a TURBO..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ITR Guy Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Brock doesnt dyno tune, and isnt interested in doing what I am thinking about. i was mainly talking about their pipe, nothing about dyno tuning..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I have been doing maps now for awhile now. I dont do just WOT. I start at 10% and work my way up. Typically takes me close to 2 hours to do a Whole Map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samhain Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Why bother with a PC-3 if you aren't getting a pipe? Unless you plan to go TURBO, you're going to need a custom tune anyway. If you aren't going TURBO why do any mods WITHOUT a pipe in conjunction? You would just be keeping other mods down and restrict total output!?!? Have you read any of his write ups on the ZX-14? A pipe would be at the top of my list if not for a TURBO..... After break-in, I would buy a turbo. No question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 After break-in, I would buy a turbo. No question. To bad it's such a PITA on the ZX-12/14.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowbusa Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 i want to say epc in dayton has a byno but not sure but they are good at building sport bike motors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 EPC...... If you want your shit FUBAR'd! :thumbdown I won't take anything to them or recommend a sole to them. To many horror stories.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Joe, what the hell? That thing is not fast enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Why bother with a PC-3 if you aren't getting a pipe? Unless you plan to go TURBO, you're going to need a custom tune anyway. If you aren't going TURBO why do any mods WITHOUT a pipe in conjunction? You would just be keeping other mods down and restrict total output!?!? Have you read any of his write ups on the ZX-14? A pipe would be at the top of my list if not for a TURBO..... For the price of a PC3 and a little tuning, I can get over 35tq 27hp from 3000rpm all the way to redline. No pipe needed. A pipe only adds about 10tq and 15ish hp anyways, and its $1200!!! No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Joe you are gay. a 9 sec bike isn't fast enough.... :marc2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowbusa Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 EPC...... If you want your shit FUBAR'd! :thumbdown I won't take anything to them or recommend a sole to them. To many horror stories.... i have had friends that has had bikes built there and hasnt had any problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 For the price of a PC3 and a little tuning, I can get over 35tq 27hp from 3000rpm all the way to redline. No pipe needed. A pipe only adds about 10tq and 15ish hp anyways, and its $1200!!! No thanks. :bs: That's funny because Brock didn't even get those results with a pipe, PC3, race fuel and other mods. You may pick some of that up BELOW 4,000rpm but NOT all the way to redline.... Part 1... http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=2079&z=2 Part 2... http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=2196&z=2 PC3 and a TRE will help below 4k but you aren't getting anywhere close to those results without more mods.... http://www.bikeland.org/misc/articles/tretest.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 i have had friends that has had bikes built there and hasnt had any problems Your friends are the FIRST that I have EVER heard of not having problems or some other shaddyness go down coming from EPC.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owndjoo Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 seriously, go to MSP in heath. Joe is the man! he got some good power outta my race SV650. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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