Toyota People i need help

[Janszen]

I am looking to sell my 97 celica to a friend but hes going to buy it for 10000 and im going to put 3sge motor in it. Right now my car has 136000, but he wants a lower mileage car. So my question is will the 3sge fit into the celica. I know the GT-4 has the same body style and thats the motor thats in it so i think it should work. If not any other comparable motors?

[HAOLE]

I thought you got flamed out?

[Kevin R.]

I don't know anything about your question, but you may want to make sure he is 100% going to buy it if he is the only one that wants that motor put in.

 

Just saying because half way through the install he could change his mind.

[Kevin R.]

I thought you got flamed out?

 

LOL. No, his buddy took all the beating.

[Miller]

I proceeeded to deliver more flame back in the welcome thread.

[Janszen]

no see im helping him with this as we go along the switch but i found this and im not sure if i can a clip from a mr2 with a 3sge because of the motor mounts and that what kind of car im getting so i was going to part it out.

[HAOLE]

torch + welder = anything is possible

[Skinner]

torch + welder x fabercation skills = anything is possible

 

fixed

[Janszen]

yea yea yea but i don't want to do alot of fabercation

[HotCarl]

yea yea yea but i don't want to do alot of fabercation

 

Then sell your car to someone else.

 

If your friend wants a lower mileage'ed car then tell him to buy another car. It will be much easier and faster if you just get rid of it than putting all that time and effort into something your just going to sell anyway.

[Mr. Jones]

omgyouhurtmyheadbecauseyourpostsrambleonlikethisandhavenorealmeaningorsentancestructureomgkthankxbye

[Janszen]

well when i do the work to i make money off it letting me have more for the next car i get

[Rally Pat]

an engine swap doesn't make a car lower mileage. the odo will still say 136000, and the car itself is still 136000.

[Janszen]

yeah i know that but the suspension is in good shape the motor just has problems with it and its slow as dirt a 3sgte will put out a hell lot more power..... and i know your doing an engine swap on your car to arnt you.. im gonna be there helping you and sean. did you fine the motor you want yet?

[Rally Pat]

yeah i know that but the suspension is in good shape the motor just has problems with it and its slow as dirt a 3sgte will put out a hell lot more power..... and i know your doing an engine swap on your car to arnt you.. im gonna be there helping you and sean. did you fine the motor you want yet?

 

thats a surprise to everyone on here, don't give it away yet

[Janszen]

yea sorry, but did sean tell you about the mr2 i was looking at

[verse]

Why would you want to put a 3sge in the car? Obviously you mean a 3sgte. Yes, the motorset would fit in your car, with a lot wiring and work. Work that you do not seem capable of. Even a 3sgte in a '97 Celica isn't worth $10g's. A '97 Celica with 130k on it is work ~$5000.

[Rally Pat]

yea sorry, but did sean tell you about the mr2 i was looking at

 

yep. come to the mid-engined side. *insert evil grin here*

[HotCarl]

a 3sgte will put out a hell lot more power.....

 

No it won't.

[nurkvinny]

This belongs in the Tech section.

[Crossle]

No it won't.

 

 

How in the world do you figure that a 3sgte motor will not put out more power than a stock 1.8L 7AFE? Yes it is still to the front wheels and may not put it down well, but it will still put down a lot more than the 1.8. If you still disagree then drive the cars for yourself.

 

sean

[verse]

How in the world do you figure that a 3sgte motor will not put out more power than a stock 1.8L 7AFE? Yes it is still to the front wheels and may not put it down well, but it will still put down a lot more than the 1.8. If you still disagree then drive the cars for yourself.

 

Well it really depends on what generation 3SGTE you are speaking. Either way, it's not going to be a "hell of a lot." You're probably gaining 50-60hp (average of all 3sgte's) to the wheels in a car that will weigh around 3000. Which means you'll be a mid 14 second car. Woopy de doo.

 

It won't happen anyhow, I will say that it won't be done. If you do it then good for you, but I'm saying it's just day dreaming.

[Crossle]

Well it really depends on what generation 3SGTE you are speaking. Either way, it's not going to be a "hell of a lot." You're probably gaining 50-60hp (average of all 3sgte's) to the wheels in a car that will weigh around 3000. Which means you'll be a mid 14 second car. Woopy de doo.

 

It won't happen anyhow, I will say that it won't be done. If you do it then good for you, but I'm saying it's just day dreaming.

 

 

Well for some people that don't have a shit ton of money and don't have mom and dad paying for us 50-60hp is welcome. Heck, i would do an engine swap just for the experience even if it is 50-60hp the experience you get from doing somthing yourself is priceless to some people. A 3sge motor from a 1995 mr2 can dyno 195hp. I have not looked at a dyno sheet from a stock 3sgte on the other hand.

 

As for day dreaming, that is what begins the motivation to get off our butt and do somthing. It takes some thought to come up with somthing unique.

 

Thanks for your comment that is completely directing this post away from a good question that was asked in the first place. This is the problem with this board, people get to up in arms and go way off topic over, well......nothing.

[Janszen]

well said sean

and it is alot of power from 105 to 220 on the turbo engine is almost double

[Rally Pat]

Your best bet would be building a 7AGE with your current engine.

 

As soon as my engine comes out, I will sell you my head.