Science Abuse Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Laws passed to protect people that actually had something to say are being wielded by asshole kids out to prove nothing but their own assholeness. http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/bong-hits-4-jesus-case-goes-to-high/20070317071909990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R. Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Who fucking cares? He wanted attention and got it from his principle, media, and now you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 I don't think his rights were violated. He expressed himself, no laws were passed preventing him from doing so, and the principal of the school is within her rights in suspending him. Freedom of speech does not mean speech without consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 heep hop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Freedom of speech does not mean speech without consequence. +1 Go yell fire in a crowded building and see what happens to you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 ACLU ftl http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/bong-hits-4-jesus-case-goes-to-high/20070317071909990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001 Fixed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotCarl Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 +1 Go yell fire in a crowded building and see what happens to you.. Freedom of speech shouldnt be taken literal. There's a difference between purposfully making people afraid and saying whats on your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070314/NEWS/703140547 A totally unrelated case, but interesting none-the-less, that I didn't think warranted a new thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Rex Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Freedom of speech shouldnt be taken literal. There's a difference between purposfully making people afraid and saying whats on your mind. mmm... tell that to some Republicans *cough* 2nd amendment *cough* 1. The kid is a douche. 2. There is no reason the school should have been involved in the first place. 3. The principal was wrong to bring the school into the picture. 4. First Amendment FTMFW. 5. ACLU FTMFW (Sure they take up some crazy cases but when your rights are violated who else can you call?) There is a reason that the First Amendment is Freedom of Speech. It is one of the most important amendments we have. It is what seperates the United States from 90% of the world. As my beautiful wife and Voltaire say "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it until death." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I don't think his rights were violated. He expressed himself, no laws were passed preventing him from doing so, and the principal of the school is within her rights in suspending him. Freedom of speech does not mean speech without consequence. But should the school be allowed to punish students for what they do off school grounds, at a non-school event? What are your feelings about the news stories of students getting harassed by school officials over their myspace pages, even when what is on there is completely unrelated to school or anyone that works there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 mmm... tell that to some Republicans *cough* 2nd amendment *cough* 1. The kid is a douche. 2. There is no reason the school should have been involved in the first place. 3. The principal was wrong to bring the school into the picture. 4. First Amendment FTMFW. 5. ACLU FTMFW (Sure they take up some crazy cases but when your rights are violated who else can you call?) There is a reason that the First Amendment is Freedom of Speech. It is one of the most important amendments we have. It is what seperates the United States from 90% of the world. As my beautiful wife and Voltaire say "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it until death." So in one post you say that freedom of speech should not be abridged in any way, yet the 2nd amendment should be? Is that what I am reading? How about I call up the ACLU and tell them my second amendment rights have been violated? How much you want to bet they will tell me to fuck off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 But should the school be allowed to punish students for what they do off school grounds, at a non-school event? What are your feelings about the news stories of students getting harassed by school officials over their myspace pages, even when what is on there is completely unrelated to school or anyone that works there? I originally read the article as saying it was a school sponsored trip. If the student is not a representative of the school in any manner, what he does away from school should not be punishable (by the school). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton006 Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I agree with ^^. Even though the kid seems to be a little nuts and just wants attention (as he stated), I think it was a little far reaching for the school to suspend him. I wonder how the court is going to rule on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lustalbert Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 His parents must not pay enough atention to him. The things a good ass beating would have prevented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 I originally read the article as saying it was a school sponsored trip. If the student is not a representative of the school in any manner, what he does away from school should not be punishable (by the school). That's the part I wasn't sure about. It sounded like the school had been closed for the event since the band and maybe something else was taking part in the parade, but it didn't sound like it was mandatory for the students to be there, which to mean would mean it wasn't a school sponsored trip, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 If it happens while he is on his way to or from school, at school, at any sort of school sponsored event, etc... he can be punished by the school. I don't know if this was any of those, but I would assume it would be something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 http://stoptheaclu.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 http://stoptheaclu.com/ That website is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Everyone knows God invented Weed. I'm sure he still hits the holy bong all the time. And when I get to heaven maybe I will join him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton006 Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 His parents must not pay enough atention to him. The things a good ass beating would have prevented. QFT I was never a rotten child, but maybe that was because my dad knew when to let me know when I was out of line. Sounds like this kid could use some too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 mmm... tell that to some Republicans *cough* 2nd amendment *cough* 1. The kid is a douche. 2. There is no reason the school should have been involved in the first place. 3. The principal was wrong to bring the school into the picture. 4. First Amendment FTMFW. 5. ACLU FTMFW (Sure they take up some crazy cases but when your rights are violated who else can you call?) There is a reason that the First Amendment is Freedom of Speech. It is one of the most important amendments we have. It is what seperates the United States from 90% of the world. As my beautiful wife and Voltaire say "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it until death." What do you think about this? click "The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court's long-standing interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.S. v. Miller] that the individual's right to bear arms applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no constitutional impediment to the regulation of firearms." --Policy #47 From their website “I have been to Europe several times, mostly in connection with international radical activities…and have traveled in the United States to areas of conflict over workers rights to strike and organize. My chief aversion is the system of greed, private profit, privilege and violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has brought it to the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and unemployment…Therefore, I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the State itself…I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal”.”--- Roger Baldwin Founder ACLU The way I see it is if you are a white Christian, who loves his nation, believes that we should protect our right to bear arms, and believes in the ideals that our founding fathers put forward in the Constitution. They wont be there to protect you! Are they still FTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 I think you misunderstand the history of the second amendment, and also of socialism or communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 I think you misunderstand the history of the second amendment, and also of socialism or communism. In what way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptn janks Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 this happened 5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 White christians should be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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