Mandova Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Then dont send christians, send all faiths, not just what you think is right.They want to go. They love people in other countries enough to share the gospel (good news) and care for oppressed people groups. If they incounter people that don't like what they have to say, their intention is not to force anyone to hear them. People in that region of the world do want to hear the gospel. Many ordinary civilians are just not allowed this influence, b/c some nations don't like American ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyec001 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 b/c some nations don't like American ways.Americans don't like American ways.Yay Communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 We might be Commies, but at least we're all Christian Communists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyec001 Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I am neither a Christian or a Commie. Don't get fucked up. Funny enough I'm Catholic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhawk Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Funny enough I'm Catholic while also being a hooker... strange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandova Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 See, right there you have your problem. Humans are not to partake from the TREE of KNOWLEDGE. Why?Because knowledge makes religion irrelevant. Yes/No?No.The reason being that when the two humans ate fruit off the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil their eyes were opened to become like God. They saw good from evil. (remember that evil exsisted prior to humans. Lucifer (Satan) had been cast out of heaven for having a lust to be ruler over everything like God) Due to humans ability to see things as God saw, they had to be cast out of the garden before they were able to eat from the Tree of Life and remain in their sinful state forever. "Tree of Life".... ( to eat of this tree was to live forever. One day this tree will be planted again and its fruit will be for the healing of the nations. Rev. 22:2) They were in sin b/c they directly disobeyed their creator. Same like a son disobeys his father, and the father disciplines him for doing so. Gen 3:23 ..therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken.Put in simple terms, real knowledge makes you see what God sees. You and I aren't God. We are only his creation, created for him and by him. We cannot be Him, but we can be like Him, b/c we are created in His image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhawk Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Age of understanding is where you'll find information concerning the innocence of children and their accountability towards God's judgement.Which god? Hindu? Allah? Shiiva? Buddah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Put in simple terms, real knowledge makes you see what God sees. You and I aren't God. We are only his creation, created for him and by him. We cannot be Him, but we can be like Him, b/c we are created in His image.If we aren't God, yet are given the same knowledge of right vs. wrong, what makes us different?And you bring up another topic that I have issue with. Come how everything is in 'human' form. Why are WE God's image? Why do we humanize Him? In essence, the Bible, as you quote it - is saying that God is an immortal perfect HUMAN. I contend that the 'God as human' is a tool used BY humans to brainwash the masses per their agenda.What is the root purpose of religion for our physiological wellbeing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandova Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 If we aren't God, yet are given the same knowledge of right vs. wrong, what makes us different?And you bring up another topic that I have issue with. Come how everything is in 'human' form. Why are WE God's image? Why do we humanize Him? In essence, the Bible, as you quote it - is saying that God is an immortal perfect HUMAN. I contend that the 'God as human' is a tool used BY humans to brainwash the masses per their agenda.What is the root purpose of religion for our physiological wellbeing?I didn't say God was a human. I said God made US in His image. He being the creator gave us some of the tangible characteristics. We have eyes to see. We have ears to hear. We have a mouth to speak. We are living and breathing. The Bible says that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden of Eden. These may be a few examples to help you understand that we are not humanizing God by saying that we are made in His image. No one has the mind of God. Nor the abilities.The difference between humans and God is that He is the "I am". It is the knowledge, the existance. He created. Man came from dust and God breathed the breath of life into man. Without the breath of life we are nothing but dust. See how creator is above creation? God made Adam to be over all the animals of the garden. See how man is ruler over beast? An animal cannot equate itself with a human. A human cannot equate himself with the creator. Does that make sence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandova Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 What is the root purpose of religion for our physiological wellbeing?I guess I didn't make clear already that I'm not about religion?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfman Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 What is the root purpose of religion for our physiological wellbeing?To explain away the fears of most humans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I guess I didn't make clear already that I'm not about religion??Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 To explain away the fears of most humans...I just wanted someone else to say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoosego Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 The atheists can put up whatever they want, the Knights of Columbus has an international campaign to combat it.... we put up billboards for KEEP CHRIST in CHRISTMAS...... You'll see my personal councils billboard in bexley, oh...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 The atheists can put up whatever they want, the Knights of Columbus has an international campaign to combat it.... we put up billboards for KEEP CHRIST in CHRISTMAS...... You'll see my personal councils billboard in bexley, oh......huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoosego Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 huh?what part was unclear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 what part was unclear?The first part. What are the Knights of Columbus fighting? Are they trying to censor someone else's speech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhawk Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 The atheists can put up whatever they want, the Knights of Columbus has an international campaign to combat it.... we put up billboards for KEEP CHRIST in CHRISTMAS...... You'll see my personal councils billboard in bexley, oh......Why combat something that your god will judge for you? If it is as you say than its not your place to judge and that is fro your god to do. Why combat it they have every right to believe whatever they want, whether you or your knights like it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magifesq Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) What if the person is kind in nature, but faithless?Why is that just as bad as being faithful, but with an unethical moral compass? Or, which one is worse, and why?Just because the apple doesn't fall from the Christian tree doesn't make it a bad apple. In fact, I thought we weren't supposed to eat any apples off the Christian tree? I'll take this one - Kind or not, its as simple as this - Saved people will go to heaven and the unsaved will not.As for your hypothetical question - you can't be a faithful Christian and be an evil or an unethical moral character. In the Gospels to Pharisees were like the latter - religious on the outside, unethical on the inside, and Jesus would constantly call them out. If you read the gospels - when people are converted,saved, transformed or changed by Jesus the always leave very differently - Zaccheus - tax collector turned philanthropist, prostitutes turning into women of character and virtue, don't take my word for it, read them yourself. Edited November 20, 2008 by magifesq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandova Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 This is not the "Blood Moon" thread anymore. I correct my mistakes. hehehe:p It's the perfectionist in me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 NO you didn't! That was the best thing going IN this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandova Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yep, it's over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harb67 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Must...not...let...die...!There! Controversy! Now, everyone, RAGE! Go! Debate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fusion Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Do Jews look black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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