hot_wire Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 I hope that this isn't a repost. The idea behind this engine is absolutely brilliant. SIX STROKE Quick basics: The engine has the same four strokes as our usual ones. However, two more strokes are added. After the exhaust gasses have been expelled, water is injected into the engine. The liquid immediately vaporizes and expands. Yes, this is STEAM POWER! The idea is great on so many levels. The water that is injected cools the engine which could possibly eliminate conventional cooling systems (think light weight). Also, the six stroke engine would allow for much more efficiency. Car engines would no longer lose so much energy as heat since that heat could be recycled into mechanical energy. I think I read that it is 40% more efficient... What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Welcome to last month's Popular Mechanics. Without clicking on the link, the inventor is Crower, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R. Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 New to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot_wire Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Yes. Ugh, I lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 cool idea, but wouldn't the added weight from haveing to carry a second tank to hold water kinda defeat the propuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R. Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 cool idea, but wouldn't the added weight from haveing to carry a second tank to hold water kinda defeat the propuse? Yeah. Do you have to refill equal parts water and fuel? Just more to pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot_wire Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 cool idea, but wouldn't the added weight from haveing to carry a second tank to hold water kinda defeat the propuse? Maybe. However, (this is just theory) you could put a condenser in the exhaust and recycle some of the water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Yeah but if it gets better fuel economy, well, gas don't come out of the kitchen sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351mach11647545510 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 The water that is injected cools the engine which could possibly eliminate conventional cooling systems (think light weight). What do you guys think? what are you talking about? you will have to have a seperate (fuel sized) tank just for water. it would make it heavier. damnit, i typed that and never sent it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R. Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Plus I didn't think HEAT + METAL + INSTANTLY COOLED resulted well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot_wire Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 what are you talking about? you will have to have a seperate (fuel sized) tank just for water. it would make it heavier. damnit, i typed that and never sent it. Yeah, I understand that. Part of the reason for the condenser idea. Who knows though. Not my invention. Interesting idea none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351mach11647545510 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Plus I didn't think HEAT + METAL + INSTANTLY COOLED resulted well. i suppose if it were thick enough it would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Plus I didn't think HEAT + METAL + INSTANTLY COOLED resulted well. On top of that you would need to use distilled water only. Otherwise mineral build up will occur at some point. Either at the injectors, or the valves/exhaust ports. my.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 On top of that you would need to use distilled water only. Otherwise mineral build up will occur at some point. Either at the injectors, or the valves/exhaust ports. my.02 +1 You'd have to use some damn clean water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 what about wash down of the cyllinders from the water? Lack of oiling protection anyone? This has happened on cars that over-use water injection as well as when big power cars use WAY too much fuel. I didn't read the link because I'm toooo lazy, so I apologize if the answer was in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 An animation of how it works would be neat to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 pretty similar as the typical water injection used today in high performance vehicles, but on a larger scale. I like it, thinking outside the box is usually a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thekingofcrunk17 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 It's new to me too, and I bet he is going to make millions, that is a great invention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar1647545494 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 That's been around for a little while. The extra weight would be neglible depending on the savings you get for fuel economy. It's not like you're dumping a bucket of cold water onto a hot piece of steal. You're only spraying a small amount of water vapor, so that shouldn't cause any issues. You would need to use clean water though. Pretty sweet idea none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshensley Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 I think Its a great idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTurbo Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Plus I didn't think HEAT + METAL + INSTANTLY COOLED resulted well. It's not that drastic. Since the water would almost instantaneously become steam, the cooling effect would only be minor. Not enough to create a problem I wouldn't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolrayz Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Water expands to 1700 times it volume when it turns into steam. Here is the RUB. Any solids in the water (and there will be) becomes deposited in the engine. The cost of purifing the water makes it a loosing battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTurbo Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 It would be steam cleaning the combustion surfaces though. Cleaning any carbon, and whatever particles may be in the water itself would simply exit out the exhaust. Obviously you wouldn't be putting lake water into the car, but something as simple as water from a dehumidifier would work perfect as its distilled by nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Water expands to 1700 times it volume when it turns into steam. Here is the RUB. Any solids in the water (and there will be) becomes deposited in the engine. The cost of purifing the water makes it a loosing battle. 39 cents a gallon water from walmart has less then 10 ppm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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