V8 Beast Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 So I'm looking at cars to replace my Envoy and I noticed something.... Why is it that certain cars can have rear wheel drive and be considered year round daily drivers while others are considered death traps in the snow? I know my TA handles like shit in the snow. Its better with bricks in the back, but it still pretty much sucks. Do these people with cars like the 300c fish tail around all winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Well, many newer, especially nicer, cars have traction control and/or stability control. Some even have other safety features and/or more sophisticated equipment. Also, do you run a really good all season passenger tire or dedicated winter tire on your car in the winter? One other thing you may want to consider is the HP to weight ratio on a powerful sports car. Same rules apply in snow/wet/ice/cold that apply in dry pavement; the powerful the auto, the easier to break traction. Oh, one more thing. On our cars, we tend to run a wider tire. In conditions like snow, a wider tire will actually hamper you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 When I did drive it I had dedicated snow tires. I ran BFG's but your right they were wide as all outside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 with modern cars I donty think you'll have a problem. I have driven My uncle's 300 in the snow and ice last year and didnt have a problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippy1974 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 all my cars, truck are 4x4 but my camaro and i dont dd it but i can if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelloman4571647545499 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 some 300s have AWD. Oh and they suck in snow. Same with chargers, magnums. Although they all weigh about 4200lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Traction control, more weight, and crap torque. I had the 86 rwd Corolla out in the blizzard, it rocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verse Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I drove my Cressida around in the snow and that thing was a tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRed Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 The Dodge Charger, 300c, and Magnums do have traction control and have a stabilitly control systems in them. From what I have heard from owners of the cars, they handle very well in the snow/rain/ice and most have no worries about driving them in those conditions. As with driving any car in those conditions, it just takes being smart and knowing how to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I drove my parents Charger R/T in the snow it did very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 its awd ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 300C's blow in the winter time. Nice driving cars other than that, but just about as good as an F-Body/Mustang in the snow. Get you a fly ass whip, and a beater S10 4X4 for the winter. http://www.asapcustoms.com/catalog/images/front_l300c.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Those all work better than driving a Ford Taurus with the parking brake on thorugh the snow. In my defense, it was a foot brake and the brake light didn't work, as well. "Damn, I just can't seem to gain control of it!" Rear end sliding along the edge of a dropoff and 3 of us trying to get out of there because we had disturbed the people around there trying to cardboard down a hill. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Car are tools. It doesn't matter how nice your hammer is, some people just can't fuckin hit the nail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibies Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Car are tools. It doesn't matter how nice your hammer is, some people just can't fuckin hit the nail. hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 you'll be fine in ones that have stability control. basically in safety mode the car will modulate braking and power to keep it straight. mine is FWD, but still, you won't spin her in the snow or ice. you'll make a bigger arc going around a curve or if you enter the curve way too fast you could still plow, but overall, she's pretty fuck up proof in bad weather. even with wide ass summer only tires. I've driven an R/T in the snow and it was pure joy to have the power push the car vs pull it, yet maintain stability through the curves and not have the back end come around on you during take offs. I won't buy another car without the safety stuff. doesn't make sense. So I'm looking at cars to replace my Envoy and I noticed something.... Why is it that certain cars can have rear wheel drive and be considered year round daily drivers while others are considered death traps in the snow? I know my TA handles like shit in the snow. Its better with bricks in the back, but it still pretty much sucks. Do these people with cars like the 300c fish tail around all winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I already have the TA so drivability trumps awesomeness. I dont want to have to rely on stabilitrac to compensate for a cars over/understeer, or the traction control throwing my pedal back at me everytime the car slides a little. I'll stick with awd... I've driven rwd for long enough to know I'm not going to purchase a car like that on purpose if some of you say they are crap in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 It is all about traction and stability control. Have you forgot when we played Forza 2 together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Rear wheel drive cars are all gonna be mostly the same in the snow unless one happens to be heavier than another car your comparing. It all comes down to just a few simple things really. RWD needs weight over the rear tires, real snow tires help tremendously, and a light foot. All of these things require an informed driver and a prepared driver. Also if your finding the snow is deep and you need more traction, lowering the air pressure will help a lot. Remember as you cut your air pressure in half your also cutting your ground clearance, but at the same time your increasing your tire "foot print" so your not really losing ground clearance and your adding traction. It also helps get the front tires to roll up and over the snow as an added bonus. Of course I'm not taking any traction control stuff into consideration. I'm talking plain old RWD cars. Evan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin Miata Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I drove my Miata all winter, no traction control or ABS, and it weighs nearly nothing. The only time in the last 2 winters that I have not been able to go somewhere due to snow was the "blizzard" of 2008. Get yourself a set of good snow tires and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Friend of mine has a 300c and it sucked balls in the snow. Could't make it up his driveway halfe the time. Doesn't have the best of tires, but still. Just got get a HEMI AWD and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Think about cars before the 80s, they were all RWD, and people got around okay. I think it just takes a different driving style. Present company excluded most people are too stupid to drive a RWD car in the snow. I love the snow, I had a blast driving in it, and I drive an S-10 everyday, no weight in the bed, and I just expect it to slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonneVille Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Car are tools. It doesn't matter how nice your hammer is, some people just can't fuckin hit the nail. New sig quote.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Sweet Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I was just wondering this same thing the other day. FWIW, the past couple winters I drove a 2WD S10 with good snow tires on the back and I never had any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 If its your fun car and your daily then I can see getting rwd, but not when you already have a garage queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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