thorne Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Will it destroy my O2 sensors in one day? I want to run C16 and some more timing but I don't want to hurt things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwilli1647545487 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 You have no need to run C16 in your car. If you are still on stock turbo/compression then it would be way overkill. To answer your question, when I run 110 leaded in my car, it will cause my bosch wideband o2 to get out of wack within one tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 i run race gas alot and it hasn't effected any of my sensors...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k2gt Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Just have a water/methanol injection kit installed and you won't have to worry about running race gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 You have no need to run C16 in your car. If you are still on stock turbo/compression then it would be way overkill. To answer your question, when I run 110 leaded in my car, it will cause my bosch wideband o2 to get out of wack within one tank. Thought the same thing. I also remember you mentioning that about your WB. You should run the lowest octane you can run safely. Lower octane actually burns hotter (or whatever, not trying to teach a course here). If I werre to run c16 in my car with the boost set as low as it is currently, I would probably lose power. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Yes but I don't have a stock turbo and I know I can coax another lb or 2 out of the car. I can run 110 also I just thought c16 was the one everyone used. Worst case I will just run 100octane. My main reason for higher octane is just to get a little more timing/boost out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limitedslip7 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 As long as the gasoline does not contain lead, it should not hurt your sensors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Yeah I'm sticking with 100 octane it seems like the best choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main3s Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I ran C16 in my car with a Denso lead resistant 02 sensor and it didn't seem to hurt it any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Is there any unleaded other than 100 around locally ? Thought I heard that there was 110+ unleaded available somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Just have a water/methanol injection kit installed and you won't have to worry about running race gas. Until you tank runs out every 5mins... Or it runs out and you dont know it... I have thought about it and it just doesnt add up. I'd rather buy a 55 gallon barrel drum of Torco 110 and know I have the octane. I have run Torco and C12 in my car and My AEM gauge is still on point from last year. Along with my Current 02 sensors on the car, However I do change them once a year even if not faulty;) And seeing how c16 is a lil more than 13.99 a gallon That would be really exspesive to run everyweekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Closest thing I guess is 104 unleaded but I don't see a semi-local source for that either..hrmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k2gt Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 So, you can make sure you have racing gas in your car when you want to play, but can't make sure the tank with methanol is full. They also come with sensors that will let you know if the tank is empty. You must not know how the kits work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Does anyone got any Torco 110 they want to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Main3s Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 VP sells 109 unleaded. I think it's avaliable at the Valero gas station on S Hamilton. If not I'm sure with enough requests they can order a drumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Does anyone got any Torco 110 they want to sell. Yes...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GMoney Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Most wideband manufatures state that the wideband will last for 30K miles and on leaded fuel 10K miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Called Valero & Sunoco. Highest unleaded they stock at the moment is 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbospec29 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Get a meth injection kit.... You can use your window washer tank and the warning light comes on when its low. You can get a safe gaurd that will cut boost back if the meth runs out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRTurbo04 Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 This might sound ignoorant but would race gas help if u put it in without changin anysettings lol? I know on stage 2cars u can an it advances timing ect yada blahblah Ps srt4 will be out haha..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psi nrg Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 No you will not gain any power from higher octane gas unless your car is tuned for it. It might help it run a little smoother if you have alot of knock but wont give you any power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 110 leaded killed my 02 sensors in 1 summer. I probably ran a total of 3 full tanks through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 No you will not gain any power from higher octane gas unless your car is tuned for it. It might help it run a little smoother if you have alot of knock but wont give you any power He tunes his own car noob. Shhh, Grown-ups are talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Running C16 (or other high octane equivalents) in a car without altering the tune will produce bad results. You will lose power. You need to be able to advance the ignition time accordingly to burn the gas. (There are other factors too that determine ignition advance beyond just octane rating). If the car is stockish in nature and your only trying to turn the wick up a tad then I would say that C16 is overkill. I would just throw some Cam2 in it. Leaded gas will kill the Bosch sensor quickly. The best thing you can do is drain the gas when your done (if possible) and run pump back through it so that you aren't mixing the gas back up for a longer period of time. Also, sensor placement plays a large role in longevity. The closer to the turbo the quicker it dies. If you have it downstream (like where the rear O2 normally sits) then it will last a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 No you will not gain any power from higher octane gas unless your car is tuned for it. It might help it run a little smoother if you have alot of knock but wont give you any power Read my VF39 thread. I tune subbies on the side. http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50154 More octane = Leaner and More timing. Timing = power I got a tune called balls out I'm going to test at the track. I'm going to run 100 octane most likely I'm sure I can add a little more timing. At the very least it will help with knock under heat soak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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