RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 President-elect's transition team planning to use decades-old military rockets instead, say insiders. President-Elect Obama's transition team is planning to scrap NASA's Ares program, the successor to the Space Shuttle, say NASA advisors. The transition team is demanding deep cuts from the agency, and is investigating whether old military rockets such as the Delta IV and Atlas V could be used in place of Ares. NASA plans a permanent moon base by 2020, followed by a manned mission to Mars; plans which the agency says require Ares. The Space Shuttle is due to make its last flight in 2010. Without a replacement, NASA may be without a manned space capability entirely, for the first time since the 1960s, a gap that NASA says would destroy the U.S.'s primacy in space technology. Prior news reports have hinted at a great deal of tension between Obama's team and NASA, a report that NASA Administrator Michael Griffon has denied. On the campaign trail, Obama blew both hot and cold on plans for NASA's budget. In the NASA-friendly states of Texas and Florida, he promised to expand NASA's budget by more than 10%. In other states, however, he promised cuts and delays to the agency, in order to help fund his education policies. Lori Garver, a space policy advisor for Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, was selected by Obama to lead the NASA review transition team. Despite being criticized for her lack of an engineering or scientific background, Garver has been called a favorite to be the next NASA Administrator. Ares program manager Steve Cook says that, with Ares due for its first test flight next summer, halting the program now would be an expensive mistake. "We would be really stepping backwards" by opting for a different launch platform. Space Historian Andrew Chaikin said that, "Obama's first priority for NASA should be to get the Shuttle's replacement on track". http://www.dailytech.com/Obama+Planning+to+Scrap+Shuttle+Replacement+Says+NASA/article13750.htm Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I think agencies like NASA should be at the forefront of any public funding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 That's my line of thinking as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Next thing Obama will do is start the a space program union.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRed Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Military first, second NASA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Military first, second NASA werd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangsn95gt Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Thoughts? next you gonna tell me hes goin after the 2nd amendment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Military first, second NASA Where does education rank for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Obama is a piece of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Obama is a piece of shit. I dropped Obama in the oval office earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Where does education rank for you? Considering how our system needs scrapped entirely and a fresh start in a completely different direction, and considering how that won't be happening any time soon, I rank it pretty low in comparison to NASA. But well above social programs, where cuts are needed. Throwing money at education doesn't work, that's been proven time and time again, the money just falls into a black hole and no one has any idea what happened to it. At least with space travel we can eventually start over fresh on a new planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Where does education rank for you? +50 Education #1 Just because of the failure of a implentation does not mean we should just give up on it. We need to think about america's place in the global market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R. Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 It's CHANGE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 +50 Education #1 Just because of the failure of a implentation does not mean we should just give up on it. We need to think about america's place in the global market. Yes, even more funding towards today's failed education system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 when quality of education goes up, crime goes down. not saying it should be #1 priority, just saying i'm not a social darwinist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Obama is a piece of shit. you sir are no longer on my top myspace friends :gtfo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 you sir are no longer on my top myspace friends :gtfo: Name his as-of-yet cabinet members and your top three favorite policies of his that set him apart from other candidates. Your answer: "Hope." "Change." "He's black." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 New's I've read after this announcement/rumor is that Obama will be supporting the Bush Campaigns goals for moon missions by 2020. So yeah looks as if we're be losing reentering shuttle's and such but likely be going back to rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIEF Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Obama is a piece of shit. Lol. This was already a decision made by the govt. to get rid of the current shuttle before the elections had even started. 2010 was already the cut off date and NASA knew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 No shit? I think that was a;ready established. NASA had a new rocket system slated for the shuttle replacement as part of a plan to colonize the moon by 2020. Now, Nobama is trying to kill that idea. He also promised Texas and Florida, key NASA states, a 10% increase in the NASA budget. He's backing down from that now. Again, he's a piece of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIEF Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 No shit? I think that was a;ready established. NASA had a new rocket system slated for the shuttle replacement as part of a plan to colonize the moon by 2020. Now, Nobama is trying to kill that idea. He also promised Texas and Florida, key NASA states, a 10% increase in the NASA budget. He's backing down from that now. Again, he's a piece of shit. No shit? I think that was already established in the reading above. Now NASA is saying they need Ares and a new shuttle replacement? Blowing money on old technology (which I'm sure they are smart enough to figure something else out) and wanting more money for old and new? Who knows if that was in the original budget. I'm all for NASA, just wondering about the whole background of this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I've been following this since the first mention of his advisers visiting NASA. The article misrepresents what is actually going on.... by that I mean it's horse shit and is blowing things out of proportion. -The transition team is trying to find ways to save money. -NASA is intensely defensive of their products and have "puffed their chests" very large over this. I personally think that the white house should stay the fuck out of NASA's buisness. Just sign the check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
znperformance Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Obama is a piece of shit. and how do you know this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Name his as-of-yet cabinet members and your top three favorite policies of his that set him apart from other candidates. Your answer: "Hope." "Change." "He's black." Ron Kirk ,hilda solis,Mary Schapiro, ray lahood,Tom Vilsack.... do you want me to keep going? his economy change plan, health care, and his view on the war. im not some dumb fucking kid, i know what im talking about, i thought we shut the political shit down last month, you guys need to get a fucking life and deal with it. if mccain was so great why isnt he the next president? hmmm is it cause hes white? nope, and its not cause obama is black either, we are just tired of living in this shitty ass econmony that the bush admin. created and no one wants another 4 yrs of this shit. so clean your vaginas and get in line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Ron Kirk ,hilda solis,Mary Schapiro, ray lahood,Tom Vilsack.... do you want me to keep going? his economy change plan, health care, and his view on the war. im not some dumb fucking kid, i know what im talking about, i thought we shut the political shit down last month, you guys need to get a fucking life and deal with it. if mccain was so great why isnt he the next president? hmmm is it cause hes white? nope, and its not cause obama is black either, we are just tired of living in this shitty ass econmony that the bush admin. created and no one wants another 4 yrs of this shit. so clean your vaginas and get in line Yes and go ahead and state their jobs as well. Please do so in a timely manner this time, as to actually give yourself some credit for knowing and not copy-pasting. It's also cute how you spontaneously chose to alternate capitalization of their names. Oh, and you didn't mention what about his policies you liked; do you really think you sound informed just by naming issues? we are just tired of living in this shitty ass econmony that the bush admin. created I suppose you believe the dire world economy is Bushy's fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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