Science Abuse Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 http://www.thespec.com/News/CanadaWorld/article/499769 So, to recap, Assholes firing cheap rockets blindy kill 3 civilians. Score from one of the best trained, best armed military forces on earth? 1300~ killed, 156 of which were combatants. One hundred and Fifty Six, out of over one thousand three hundred. wut.the.fuck Gets better: -Use of incentiary white phosphorus rounds in areas densly packed with civilians. If you want to look up what that does to people, wait until after lunch. -Inumerable accounts of firing on civilian and Aid related targets, from which no Hamas fire was reported. The extremes of this being the shelling of UN warehouses and schools, and soldiers executing a 10 year old girl. Going into this, Israel said their goal was to make it impossible for Hamas to fire missles from Gaza. Apparently their tactic was to bring such horror and slaughter to the civilian people of Gaza that they would no longer allow militants to fire rockets from their neighborhoods. or "Intent on targeting the members and infrastructure of Hamas" really meant killing off as many voters as possible. Fucking pathetic excuse for a military operation. There are two sides to every war, and both side of this one are murderous assholes with a zealous feeling of entitlement. Why are we supportive of one of them? [/rant] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Because you cant get elected to any federal position with out the blessing of Israel. The first thing the presidential candidates do is pay homage to Israel. Look at the cabinet make up of the presidents since WWII the all have a high percentage of Jewish members. The Jews control almost all mainstream media. I am not antisemitic so don't say it. I think we should be friends with Israel, but not turn a blind eye to the bad things they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hammas also hides among civilians so they can get sympathy of civilian kills. A bunch of cowards. You would think the rest of the Palestinians would give these fuckers up, they are getting innocent women and children killed. Yep keep firing rockets into Israel, you are making a hell of a point. Terrorism is terrorism, if you like Hammas, go live in the west bank. Why can't Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, just fucking duke it out and lets have a winner already.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hammas also hides among civilians so they can get sympathy of civilian kills. A bunch of cowards. You would think the rest of the Palestinians would give these fuckers up, they are getting innocent women and children killed. Yep keep firing rockets into Israel, you are making a hell of a point. Terrorism is terrorism, if you like Hammas, go live in the west bank. Why can't Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, just fucking duke it out and lets have a winner already.... I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinHawk1647545499 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 you kill one of us we'll kill 100, sounds fare to me, id want the USA to do the same things. plus props to isreal for blowing up the UN building there, i wish we would do the same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hammas also hides among civilians so they can get sympathy of civilian kills. So when some one takes a hostages, the cops are just supposed to kill the hostages to get the bad guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 So when some one takes a hostages, the cops are just supposed to kill the hostages to get the bad guy? No matter the event, you find a way to twist it to condemn Israel. Do you seriously not see a problem on both sides or do you choose to ignore that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 So when some one takes a hostages, the cops are just supposed to kill the hostages to get the bad guy? I don't know if you checked recently, the military and police forces do not have the same goals. Police forces act to preserve life. Military forces act to accomplish a strategic goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 No matter the event, you find a way to twist it to condemn Israel. Do you seriously not see a problem on both sides or do you choose to ignore that? Ummm There are two sides to every war, and both side of this one are murderous assholes with a zealous feeling of entitlement. Why are we supportive of one of them? [/rant] Thanks for playing. Secondly, I wouldn't cal it a "twist" at all. It's simple math: 1314 (to date) minus 156 is 1158 non-combatants. 13 minus 3 is 3 non-combatants. Who is the more proficient murderer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Going into this, Israel said their goal was to make it impossible for Hamas to fire missles from Gaza. Apparently their tactic was to bring such horror and slaughter to the civilian people of Gaza that they would no longer allow militants to fire rockets from their neighborhoods. Whatever is most effective. Geneva convention = lame, give our military hollowpoints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I guess the point is, the two organizations at war with eachother are the same, in that they'll kill whatever they have to in order to get what they want. The difference is, Israel has better guns. Keep in mind, it's religous entitlement that make them think they deserve that patch of earth. If the tables were turned and they didn't have the nice toys we gave them, if they were the underdog, you'd best believe that they would be using the same tactics that Hamas is using. Like Mike says, whatever is most effective, because the geneva convention is lame. They'd make the mosst effective use of their ancient shitty rockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 They were not civilians, they were hamas supporters. ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I saw a vid of what was supposed to be a "victim" of WP and a chunk of Israel's WP....the "victim" wasn't hit but WP and I doubt he was hurt at all...when the camera wasn't focused on him, no pained expression on his face, as soon as it's turned towards him he's all "omg worst pain evar" And Hamas was firing rockets with WP at Israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I has found the video I think. I can't view it at work but maybe someone else can see it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/20/gaza-white-phosphorus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Yay, religion is so awesome ! "Hey thats my holy piece of dirt !" "No it isn't you Israeli dog, its my holy piece of dirt." BANG BANG BANG ... KABOOM !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 And that's why religion is the most dangerous, destructive force on Earth. It's killed more than the World Wars, it's killed more than natural disasters, and it's killed more than "global warming." Shouldn't we be focusing on ending religion? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonneVille Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 No matter the event, you find a way to twist it to condemn Israel. Do you seriously not see a problem on both sides or do you choose to ignore that? You're right, there is a problem on both sides. And yes, the Isrealis would be using the exact same tactics if the positions were reversed. This is why I say fuck em all. Why are we even still involved in this shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 And that's why religion is the most dangerous, destructive force on Earth. It's killed more than the World Wars, it's killed more than natural disasters, and it's killed more than "global warming." Shouldn't we be focusing on ending religion? If I could give more than 2 points of +rep, sir ... I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 you kill one of us we'll kill 100, sounds fare to me. I challenge you to find me a single instance in history where this has worked, long term. Where has the peace of slaughter and intimidation lasted more than a lifetime or two. Shit, I can think of at least one instance where it backfired, to an incredible degree. You either end up having to: A: wipe them all out, because they all now hate you and want to fight. This usually bankrupts you. B: negotiate with them, because a sea of 1 million pissed off people with sticks is better than a few hundred assholes with missiles. C: you get your cities sacked by said horde. Note, there is no "D: enjoy the security of a whipped and obedient dog." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 And that's why religion is the most dangerous, destructive force on Earth. It's killed more than the World Wars, it's killed more than natural disasters, and it's killed more than "global warming." Shouldn't we be focusing on ending religion? It looks like there have been others that like to try to end religion. They did a great job of it, one life at a time Famous people that like to end religion http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3e/Mao_Zedong.jpg/225px-Mao_Zedong.jpg 70 million dead not count the tens of millions of forced abortions http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c0/Pol_Pot2.jpg/225px-Pol_Pot2.jpg 1.7 million or 25% of his countries population http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3a/Joseph_Stalin.jpg/225px-Joseph_Stalin.jpg 61 million http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Milosevic-1.jpg about 250,000 killed http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7d/Adolf_Hitler_cph_3a48970.jpg/225px-Adolf_Hitler_cph_3a48970.jpg 11 million killed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 And that's why religion is the most dangerous, destructive force on Earth. It's killed more than the World Wars, it's killed more than natural disasters, and it's killed more than "global warming." Shouldn't we be focusing on ending religion? + Rep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 civillians are just terrorists that don't know it yet they should be using napalm untill its all burnt down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 It looks like there have been others that like to try to end religion. They did a great job of it, one life at a time Famous people that like to end religion http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3e/Mao_Zedong.jpg/225px-Mao_Zedong.jpg 70 million dead not count the tens of millions of forced abortions http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c0/Pol_Pot2.jpg/225px-Pol_Pot2.jpg 1.7 million or 25% of his countries population http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3a/Joseph_Stalin.jpg/225px-Joseph_Stalin.jpg 61 million http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Milosevic-1.jpg about 250,000 killed http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7d/Adolf_Hitler_cph_3a48970.jpg/225px-Adolf_Hitler_cph_3a48970.jpg 11 million killed Amen You cant end it, but at times they need to be told; "Damn man, you can't do that shit". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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