neonkiller Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Welll tonight I started on my header wrap install. I bought 80 ft of it from jegs so this is a one time not fuck up deal. I was using 14 guage wire to attach it at the ending points but it seems that the tighter i tighten the wire it breaks and its not a very clean install how I would like. is there any other forms instead of wire that I can use like small hose clamsp? even then can they stand up to the massive amount of heat that will be generated. These will be for turbo headers hence how much ft I had to buy to make sure to get every peice of tubing and why I would like a clea instal and not a million steal ties everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristanlee85 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 I used 2 hose clamps on mine when I had it on my log manifold. Not the prettiest, but it held just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 use the band clamps that come with it. are the headers off the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 use the band clamps that come with it. are the headers off the car? Yes , no band clamps came with the wrap. should have tho for the price I payed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Automotive Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 I always used hose clamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTaylor751647545500 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Hose clamps should be fine. Every set of of headers I've seen wrapped do just fine with hose clamps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristanlee85 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 I've bought 2 sets of the black wrap and they didn't come with the bands either. Ripoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 I've bought 2 sets of the black wrap and they didn't come with the bands either. Ripoff. Shit is exspensive!!!!!!! ill look into some small hose clamps thanks for the suggestions guys. I just thought hose clamps where a lil ghetto, I guess can swing gangster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristanlee85 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Just get real skinny ones and when you tighten them make sure the gear isn't visible. Won't look as ghetto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 I used a decent sized gauged wire on my header wrap for my corolla and it worked okay.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Yes , no band clamps came with the wrap. should have tho for the price I payed. lol true. i used the ones that just wrap around the tubes when i did this last set. use hose clamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTaylor751647545500 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 They do make clamps specific for exhaust wraps, but it looks like Summit and Jeg's both sell them as an entire kit (which are not "cheap"). Not sure if you can pick up the clamps separately. http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/800/895/895-2537.jpg http://www.jegs.com/i/Taylor/895/2537/10002/-1 http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/dei-010110_w.jpg http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DEI-010110&N=700+400384+115&autoview=sku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Im gonna stick to hose clamps, I guess considering the rest of the car this will be a real nice part of it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88lx5oh Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 or you can get 10 of these nice stainless steel header wrap ties for $11 shipped http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Stainless-Steel-Ties-10-14-ties-Exhaust-Header-Wrap_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem110343661033QQitemZ110343661033QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88lx5oh Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 another set of 10 for $8.00 shipped http://cgi.ebay.com/10-STAINLESS-STEEL-ZIP-TIES-STRAPS-EXHAUST-HEADER-WRAP_W0QQitemZ120347827895QQcmdZViewItemQQptZNails_Screws_Fasteners?hash=item120347827895&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1171|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50 pack of 25 for $14 shipped http://cgi.ebay.com/25-STAINLESS-STEEL-ZIP-TIES-STRAPS-EXHAUST-HEADER-WRAP_W0QQitemZ120360788645QQcmdZViewItemQQptZNails_Screws_Fasteners?hash=item120360788645&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1171|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruinms Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 jegs sales them also. who would have guessed that. damn jegs salesman. http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS/762522/10002/-1 http://www.jegs.com/p/Thermo+Tec/744851/10002/-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 They do make clamps specific for exhaust wraps, but it looks like Summit and Jeg's both sell them as an entire kit (which are not "cheap"). Not sure if you can pick up the clamps separately. http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/800/895/895-2537.jpg http://www.jegs.com/i/Taylor/895/2537/10002/-1 http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/dei-010110_w.jpg http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DEI-010110&N=700+400384+115&autoview=sku i always buy the kits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I would buy the kit but I just bought Clamps from Lowes all 16 for 8 bucks.... plus I have a really hard time thinking those clamps will stay since being so thin. My VW had some on them and they always disapeared after long racing nights....... Maybe the heat.... Exspand,Contract. dunno But hose clamps are whats goin on I will post pics after tonight in my build thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I would buy the kit but I just bought Clamps from Lowes all 16 for 8 bucks.... plus I have a really hard time thinking those clamps will stay since being so thin. My VW had some on them and they always disapeared after long racing nights....... Maybe the heat.... Exspand,Contract. dunno But hose clamps are whats goin on I will post pics after tonight in my build thread. let me know how this goes. I need to do the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 let me know how this goes. I need to do the same thing. I aready did one with wire, Its ok but I need to re do it. make it more even and tighter. The hose clamps work great alot cleaner than twisted wire. What are using for Fuel?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I aready did one with wire, Its ok but I need to re do it. make it more even and tighter. The hose clamps work great alot cleaner than twisted wire. What are using for Fuel?.... I was planning on keeping it mostly stock, 255 walboro, 42lbs fms inj, calibrated maf, stock rails/lines/tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I was planning on keeping it mostly stock, 255 walboro, 42lbs fms inj, calibrated maf, stock rails/lines/tank. If I were you better step it up to 2 walbros and 60lb injectors..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Before you wrap it, soak the wrap in water (get it wet), you'll be able to pull it tighter and then it shrinks when it dries. It's also not as dusty while you are wrapping. I just use saftey wire and saftey wire pliers to secure the ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 If I were you better step it up to 2 walbros and 60lb injectors..... Im thinking that might be over kill for a 400hp number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Before you wrap it, soak the wrap in water (get it wet), you'll be able to pull it tighter and then it shrinks when it dries. It's also not as dusty while you are wrapping. I just use saftey wire and saftey wire pliers to secure the ends. I remebered that from when you did the down pipe on the VW, The picture was taken when it was wet its dry and tight now... Hows the stang doin?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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