Flyin Miata Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 The proposal would regulate marijuana like alcohol, with people over 21 years old allowed to grow, buy, sell and possess cannabis - all of which is barred by federal law. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/23/BAO416354C.DTL&type=politics&tsp=1 As much as I would love to see this happen, I don't know if the country is ready to accept something like this just yet. I still believe that it will be legal before I become too old to care though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer1647545514 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 It will be interesting to see what happens with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/23/BAO416354C.DTL&type=politics&tsp=1 As much as I would love to see this happen, I don't know if the country is ready to accept something like this just yet. I still believe that it will be legal before I become too old to care though . Why not ? I dont smoke, but I could care less if someone else does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I guess some people just don't realize, and never will, that federal law trumps state law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I guess some people just don't realize, and never will, that federal law trumps state law. Of course now you open a whole other can o worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Why its not legale is pretty simple...you cant control plants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankis Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Why its not legale is pretty simple...you cant control plants! Interesting. Go on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Why its not legale is pretty simple...you cant control plants! Seems to work for the tobacco industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Of course now you open a whole other can o worms. Not really, unless we're going into a debate on constitutional law. If we're doing that, I'll be reversing my position and will actually be on California's side for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer1647545514 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 It's because it's not hard to acquire all of the equipment to grow it for your own personal use. Hard to tax it, but most people would not take the time and effort to grow quality stuff, so I don't see what they are worried about. It still opens up billions of dollars to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 If I grew my own apples and sold apple pie without charging tax, would that be against the law? "Not Brian's Fruit Stand" I can see it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I have no issue with them making pot legal, I mean whens the last time you heard of someone having an overdose to pot? I just dont see it ever happening, and by my comment on its kinda hard to regulate a plant and your comment about Tobacco, tobacco is only grown in a few state, pot can be grown anywhere by anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I have no issue with them making pot legal, I mean whens the last time you heard of someone having an overdose to pot? I just dont see it ever happening, and by my comment on its kinda hard to regulate a plant and your comment about Tobacco, tobacco is only grown in a few state, pot can be grown anywhere by anyone I grew a tobacco plant in a small "green house" in my back yard for a project in high school. You can grow it anywhere by this method, just like pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supldys Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I dont mind trying to trump federal law, but this bill would be stupid. It said it would legalize growth, transportation and selling of marijuana...but it would be tax evasion if you did. Plus I read somewhere 15,500 metric tons of marijuana come in from mexico...I guarantee mexican pot would be cheaper and would be tax free, so why would californians buy taxed american pot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I dont mind trying to trump federal law, but this bill would be stupid. It said it would legalize growth, transportation and selling of marijuana...but it would be tax evasion if you did. Plus I read somewhere 15,500 metric tons of marijuana come in from mexico...I guarantee mexican pot would be cheaper and would be tax free, so why would californians buy taxed american pot? because they could walk into a nice clean shop and buy it instead of going to a dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Many cities in CA have legalized it, Prop 215, Medical. You can join any of like 50 clinics in the bay area. It legalized the sale and growth of weed in small quantities. You have to have a medical marijuana patient card. It costs $175 consultation with a doctor the clinic suggests. Then you get the card, and can go to the clinics. The feds don't do anything about it because the city cops don't see it as a federal crime so they don't arrest anyone. Here is the list for just San Fran. http://www.sanfranciscocannabisclubs.com/directory/ The guy proposing the state-wide legalization said that the states largest agricultural crop isn't regulated or taxed. I found that to be funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Not really, unless we're going into a debate on constitutional law. If we're doing that, I'll be reversing my position and will actually be on California's side for once. That's the very can I was talking about. Though I've grown tired of that subject on this forum. So my opinion, in summation is ... GO POT ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supplicium Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I guess some people just don't realize, and never will, that federal law trumps state law. I guess you missed it when obama said once his DEA guy is in place the federal govt will not challenge any state law. “The president believes that federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws, and as he continues to appoint senior leadership to fill out the ranks of the federal government, he expects them to review their policies with that in mind," White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I guess you missed it when obama said once his DEA guy is in place the federal govt will not challenge any state law. “The president believes that federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws, and as he continues to appoint senior leadership to fill out the ranks of the federal government, he expects them to review their policies with that in mind," White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said. Last I checked, he can only be the president for a max of 8 years. Not that I know anything about government:confused:. PS. The DEA doesn't have to be the entity to challenge the state law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 That's the very can I was talking about. Though I've grown tired of that subject on this forum. So my opinion, in summation is ... GO POT ! Most people on here probably haven't even read the constitution. My opinion is this: California should secede and we should let them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciongirl Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 i dont know that i care either way but i dont think just because it becomes legal, everyone will be doing it.... ah whatever... i still have my alcohol that i can get effed up on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 If I grew my own apples and sold apple pie without charging tax, would that be against the law? If you sold to Ohio residents without charging sales tax then yes. You should get your house raided for this you terrorist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 If you sold to Ohio residents without charging sales tax then yes. You should get your house raided for this you terrorist. They'd raid your house, than they'd ravage and defile all of your pies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 They'd raid your house, than they'd ravage and defile all of your pies. MMM warm apple pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRed Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 If I grew my own apples and sold apple pie without charging tax, would that be against the law? No, food is not taxable in the state of Ohio. It would only be taxable if you sold the pies then had tables for them to sit inside and eat the pies. Then the food would be taxable. Never done the stuff, never plan to either. Do I care if they make it legal, not really. It will be a big fad for a bit then it will quickly die out. I know if they do make it legal, I will go no where because I hate of the smell of the stuff when people smoke it. And you can smell it on them for days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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