Science Abuse Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Are all the stories crappy, or just a few? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbutera2112 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 never used them, but on every forum ive been on, they are regarded as one of the worst tires you can buy for traction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I have not run the Z's. I Ran the HTR's and thought they were very good for the $. I wish I had stayed with them when it came time to replace tires. Only reason was a price hook up. Now i'm with a very soft side wall tire that feels sloppy and not as responsive while cornering. As for Sumitomo HTR in general, I would buy them again. I know the Audi S4 guys like them a lot when I first put them on. They had good wear and were exactly what I was looking for at that time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ta Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I ran them on my gtp back in day. I liked them, no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I've run them before (HTR-Zs), and now have a brand new pair on the green Formula for the fronts. I've had no issues with them, and they see triple digits more than any tire should. A few weeks ago I picked up 275/40/17s for $88/each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I have one of the HTR lines on my car. There are times when they feel like they are just starting to understeer, but then the feeling goes away so I dunno if its actually happening or just my imagination. They were certainly cheap though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Ive got the HTZ R III's for summer. I didnt log all that many miles on them last year but I dont have anything to complain about yet (noise, ect) I did do 1 auto-x day on them and aftersome extra pressure I didnt have any problems with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 I ran them on my BMW, i had no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRust Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 htrz--cheap junk htrz2-cheap decent but discontinued htrz3- cheap beating bridgestone- yoko and other big names in tires rack testing htr+-cheap h,v,w rated all season decent traction alot of people happy with them for the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 htrz--cheap junk htrz2-cheap decent but discontinued htrz3- cheap beating bridgestone- yoko and other big names in tires rack testing htr+-cheap h,v,w rated all season decent traction alot of people happy with them for the price Thank you for summing this up. CHEAP! There is always a sacrifice to be made somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRust Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Thank you for summing this up. CHEAP! There is always a sacrifice to be made somewhere... quiet.. see if cosco carries vredesteins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRust Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Tire rack's testing must be biased http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/tests/su_htrzIII/chart6.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 quiet.. see if cosco carries vredesteins Don't start that shit again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 We carry sumitomo's at my work (NTB) and I put a set of the htrzIII's on my girls car for cheap and they have been great. We took a trip to the outer banks the week that we put them on and they rode great. I would suggest them for daily driving only. If you want a sticky performance tire then spend the extra money for something a little more high end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 We carry sumitomo's at my work (NTB) and I put a set of the htrzIII's on my girls car for cheap and they have been great. We took a trip to the outer banks the week that we put them on and they rode great. I would suggest them for daily driving only. If you want a sticky performance tire then spend the extra money for something a little more high end. Yeah, I put them on a lot of stuff too. That was mainly because I made $6 per tire plus the mounting. Sometimes it's nice to be owned by a huge company like Sumitomo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted March 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Tire rack's testing must be biased http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/tests/su_htrzIII/chart6.gif What it probably is; Cheap tire buyers are more vocal than people who buy decent ones. I was ready to go for yours this weekend, but ya didn't return my call. My hoops aren't safe and I needed to be sure that I got a set for Mid Ohio, so I pulled the trigger on these. I got two of the Sumi's in 255/45 and two of the RE-01 Rs in 245/45. Considering that these will also be my HPDE rain set, I probably should have gotten 4 of the Sumi's. I'm not sure how the RE-01 R will do on the front in the wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRust Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 What it probably is; Cheap tire buyers are more vocal than people who buy decent ones. that was per tire rack testing.. not the survey section which is consumer based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I have the HTR ZIIIs and the seem to hook pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RX-7 Addict Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 I bought some volks with them on them even at 275 width, they were nothing compared to the nitto 555r on 275s I have now. I had 245 width Toyo T1R on stock wheels that hooked up better than the sumitomos. I would have never bought them but they came with my old wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRust Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 I bought some volks with them on them even at 275 width, they were nothing compared to the nitto 555r on 275s I have now. I had 245 width Toyo T1R on stock wheels that hooked up better than the sumitomos. I would have never bought them but they came with my old wheels which model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 I bought some volks with them on them even at 275 width, they were nothing compared to the nitto 555r Sorry, but though I thank you for your reveiw, it is utterly worthless because you just compared a budget street tire to an R compound drag radial. Even the TR1 is a ridiculous comparison, of course its going to be better. I’m assuming you’re version of “hook” pertains to launching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RX-7 Addict Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 sorry for the lame comparison, I was just being honest with what I've used The biggest thing is that when I went from volk/sumis > stock wheels I put on new Toyo T1R - which is a good performance tire, but nothing outstanding - I felt like I had more traction in 1st, 2nd, 3rd gears. This was with 30mm less width out back. I don't typically launch the car hard, but giving it lots of gas in 2nd or 3rd meant less slipping. The sumis were HRT-Z I believe. This was several years ago and I think it was the first iteration. Of course the Nitto 555rs grip a lot better.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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