vnmous04 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 it will walk it yes but its atleast 50 times sexier. I would not say sexier at all. Also that car would run you about 1,000 dollars a month just in payment for 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z06G Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 keep the cobra, don't go farther in debt dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnmous04 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Dover, I dont think this is going to be such a big dent in the wallet since we are all going to take care of this. But let it be known if I scrape any knuckles helping you I want 5% of your street earnings from that bolt-on GT.jk. I think we should start on it after the track day. Maybe the 25th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qtr_pndr Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 lol i hear ya, theres no back seat in the cobra either though! i may keep the cobra, depends on how much this rebuild takes out of me. if i do keep the cobra i want a comma in my dyno. do a 302 stroker or just good rings and pistons and have fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dover Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 MMR 950 shortblock? Hm. So many things to consider! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Dover, can you post a picture of the plugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepoint4life23 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 vipers=junk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnmous04 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 MMR 950 shortblock? Hm. So many things to consider! I am telling you that is the route to go with....plus it will cost you not so much. Remember what I was saying yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 If you read all 8 pages you would have seen that it is bad rings. No need for a compression test or a leak down when you have oil all over the passenger side and alittle oil on the drivers side. The spark plug was also covered in oil. This would tell us that the rings are bad and boost is getting by the rings. We are how ever going to do a leak down and compression test to verify before we pull the motor and put new pistons and rings on it. bad rings doesn't explain oil all over the engine bay. Having not seen any pictures or the car in person there is really no way to tell, but there is more than 1 way to get the symptoms discribed in the thread. oil on the plug can be explained by oil sitting in the plug hole and covered the strap as they pulled it out. there are other ways for oil to get into a chamber other than rings as well. Could it be rings? sure. but what else failed to get the oil outside the motor? PCV system? after reading all the pages all i've seen is speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 this thread makes my junk tickle. It went from "FUCK THIS COBRA" to "short block anyone?" in a day. Dont sell it, cause if you do it will most likely end up in my garage or with me in it smashed into a cement barrier wall on 270.....think about it man...you do not want either of these things (or do you? mmmmm?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 bad rings doesn't explain oil all over the engine bay. Having not seen any pictures or the car in person there is really no way to tell, but there is more than 1 way to get the symptoms discribed in the thread. oil on the plug can be explained by oil sitting in the plug hole and covered the strap as they pulled it out. there are other ways for oil to get into a chamber other than rings as well. Could it be rings? sure. but what else failed to get the oil outside the motor? PCV system? after reading all the pages all i've seen is speculation. I'm on the WTF train as well... Pulled the plugs. Front Passanger Plug is fried with oil all over it. Were assuming rings. FML Bold has me worried. If it is melted, there's at least piston damage if that much heat made it to the plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt B. Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Oil came out of his breathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnmous04 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'm on the WTF train as well... Bold has me worried. If it is melted, there's at least piston damage if that much heat made it to the plug. Read the entire post then. I pulled the plug. The plug wasn't fried just covered in oil. The boost got past the rings and sprayed oil out of his breathers. Hence the oil in the engine bay. No speculation just facts. NO PCV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Read the entire post then. I pulled the plug. The plug wasn't fried just covered in oil. The boost got past the rings and sprayed oil out of his breathers. Hence the oil in the engine bay. No speculation just facts. NO PCV. If there was no damage to the plug -- what was the root cause of the ring failure? I don't think many people will buy "boost" as the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dover Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'm sure alot of the 'speculation' will be anwsered once the motor's apart but it's hard to show facts or evidence when the car is sitting in a small garage with no light and still together. So when things are torn down anwsers will be revealed. I'm honestly not to worried about it. I got some damn good friends helping me here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisnuz Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Do any of you high hp mustang guys run vacuum pumps for the breather problems?An added benefit is some help with ring seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'm sure alot of the 'speculation' will be anwsered once the motor's apart but it's hard to show facts or evidence when the car is sitting in a small garage with no light and still together. So when things are torn down anwsers will be revealed. I'm honestly not to worried about it. I got some damn good friends helping me here. We're just trying to help you, queen of battle. Fixing a problem and finding the solution are two different things - just keep that in mind before you spend anything. What if the rings weren't the source of the excess blow-by? What if the the compressor seal(s) are leaking pressure through the oil return into the crankcase? Brian did mention some blue smoke, an early sign of oil in the exhaust. I think calling "witch" without, at minimum, a compression check isn't a very logical idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dover Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I understand this. Like I had said before the car is in a dark small garage, when we get it over to the bigger garage the neccessary steps to finding the correct solution will be done. Right now though as it sits it is all speculation. (I don't understand the Queen of Battle thing, I mean are you reffering to the Army or..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
,,,,,,comma,,,,,, Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 this thread makes my junk tickle. It went from "FUCK THIS COBRA" to "short block anyone?" in a day. Dont sell it, cause if you do it will most likely end up in my garage or with me in it smashed into a cement barrier wall on 270.....think about it man...you do not want either of these things (or do you? mmmmm?) you still hang out with that Amy chick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I understand this. Like I had said before the car is in a dark small garage, when we get it over to the bigger garage the neccessary steps to finding the correct solution will be done. Right now though as it sits it is all speculation. (I don't understand the Queen of Battle thing, I mean are you reffering to the Army or..) 11B, the queen of battle (infantry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dover Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 11B, the queen of battle (infantry) I'm aware of my job title, I just didn't know if you were making a joke of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'm aware of my job title, I just didn't know if you were making a joke of it. Not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Do any of you high hp mustang guys run vacuum pumps for the breather problems?An added benefit is some help with ring seal. i'm at 590rwhp with 17psi blower. my passenger side breather feeds directly into the intake tract (completely stock), and the driver's side (PCV) hosing goes to an oil collection can, and then into a vacuum fitting on the back of the blower (in the stock location). the only problem i've ever had was when i replaced the PCV valve, with one that was slightly smaller, and it kept getting blown out of its fitting. once i got a little bigger one, it fits just fine, and i haven't had any problems with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 614Streets Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 i'm at 590rwhp with 17psi blower. my passenger side breather feeds directly into the intake tract (completely stock), and the driver's side (PCV) hosing goes to an oil collection can, and then into a vacuum fitting on the back of the blower (in the stock location). the only problem i've ever had was when i replaced the PCV valve, with one that was slightly smaller, and it kept getting blown out of its fitting. once i got a little bigger one, it fits just fine, and i haven't had any problems with this. Why wouldn't anyone with a big engine run a crankcase pullout though? I just dont get it. Vacuum pumps on big psi are underrated engine savers/hp makers , not IMO , its proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ry_Trapp01647545522 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 screw these guys, go with the viper!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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