Guest Hal Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I need to start learning and practicing land navigation but, I'm not sure where to start. I know we have Army guys on here and enthusiasts so hopefully someone can point me in the right direction. Where can I get 1:50000 topographical maps? How can I learn dead reckoning and pace count? Anywhere to get "Ranger Beads" around here? Fill me in with whatever info you find important, I know very very little on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I'm dumb on this subject, but would be interested in learning as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I need to start learning and practicing land navigation but, I'm not sure where to start. I know we have Army guys on here and enthusiasts so hopefully someone can point me in the right direction. Where can I get 1:50000 topographical maps? How can I learn dead reckoning and pace count? Anywhere to get "Ranger Beads" around here? Fill me in with whatever info you find important, I know very very little on the subject. Lemme know when you wanna get your nav on @ Camp Lazarus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimmel1647545512 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Just put your ear to the ground and listen for hoof beats. On a more serious not Highbanks used to have a good selection of topigraphical maps and that sort of stuff in one of the ranger stations they might be able to help or point you in the right direction with some of this, just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewhop Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I use the public library for topographic maps. That might be a good place. I also like to get both older and newer maps. I know this sight has been helpful to me but I dont need topo maps often enough to justify me paying for a membership. http://www.trails.com/ Also here can be helpful. http://www.usgs.gov/pubprod/ for maps http://www.usgs.gov/ for general. The other stuff I am just not that hardcore just good with maps. Ranger beads if your cheap http://www.instructables.com/id/Army-Ranger-Beads/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Forgot to add the FM 3-25.26 is the Army Field manual on land navigation. It's cake once you learn a grid map, to come somewhat close to your position. I'll see what I can find in 2 weeks when I'm at my armory again. -I can get you the ranger anal beads if you want em, I never used em personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) Dead reckoning is normally for water based movements. Still useful on land with some tweaking. Scotty lets set something up and do a class on this. Only thing is I'm slammed for free time right now. I'll try to squeeze in where/if you plan it. I have all the maritime nav stuff on dead reckoning from the Marines still. Beads are a gimick. I'd rather use pebbles or just string. I like #'s too much and usually just keep track in my head. Scott I probably have everything here with the BNCOC course or at home. Let me know how I can help. Edited April 30, 2009 by Mojoe spelling and add info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Dead reckoning is normally for water based movements. Still useful on land with some tweaking. Scotty lets set something up and do a class on this. Only thing is I'm slammed for free time right now. I'll try to squeeze in where/if you plan it. I have all the maritime nav stuff on dead reckoning from the Marines still. Beads are a gimick. I'd rather use pebbles or just string. I like #'s too much and usually just keep track in my head. Let me knkow how I can help. Camp Lazarus up here in Delaware is where all the cadidiots (ROTC) do their land nav course at. Most of the points are already set up, and I'd like to say there's atleast one 7 clicks out. I should be free by the 17th time frame. So maybe towards the end of May I'm golden. - I can get a topographical map, just don't remember where my lensantic compass is. I'm up for some stomping in the woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Maps for that course should be easy to get if ROTC uses it. I have protractors and the manuals covered. Just need to see who to get the maps from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Maps for that course should be easy to get if ROTC uses it. I have protractors and the manuals covered. Just need to see who to get the maps from. I got some folks, if not I think I can stop by Camp Lazarus and get a topographical map if I feed em' a line of BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Scotty, I'm up for that whenever you have some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChris1632X Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 I have a few extra sets of ranger beads laying around. I dont use them really though. I pick up pepples or small things and put them in my pocket. If you still need them in three weeks when I get home you can have them, but you sure as hell wont be finding me doing any land nav for a long, long time after I get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig71188 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Ohio Department of Natural Resources (ODNR) off Morse Rd (listed as 2045 Morse Rd. - just east of what was Northland on the south side of the street) has topo maps for most of Ohio on hand. Not too expensive - I picked up a couple for a scout troop trip down to the Zaleski backback trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Good stuff, learn grid (up to 12 digit) and calling 9 lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Good stuff, learn grid (up to 12 digit) and calling 9 lines. Fuck 9 lines. 12 digit gets all remaining rounds on that pos. Hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Fuck 9 lines. 12 digit gets all remaining rounds on that pos. Hehe Until you have to yell CHECK FIRE! at the damn gun bunnies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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