DTM Brian Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 130,000 miles on the shortblock. Stock 98 Heads Stock 98 Intake Stock 98 Air Box MS3 Cam with supporting Valve Springs, Retainers, Locks, and Pushrods Mild Steel Long Tube Headers SLP Loud Mouth Catback Tuned with 89 Octane (Not sure why. It is what it is) Speed Density Tune followed by a Maf Tune. Car is coming back in two weeks with an LS6 Intake, Larger TB and Lid. 94 Octane http://75.180.27.125:50001/Dyno%20Graphs%20and%20Pictures./Dyno%20Graphs/David%20Jones.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprayin77 Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 not bad numbers. little low on the torque end. what gears are in the rear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted May 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 not bad numbers. little low on the torque end. what gears are in the rear? 4.10's I agree on the torque. My guess is the conservative timing and a restrictive air intake setup is holding it back. Stay Tuned for the updated tune with the changes mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRust Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 100whp from a cam and exhaust..fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Oh that's right, GM must be failing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted May 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Oh that's right, GM must be failing LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted May 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Magic Stick Cams are sweeping the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ta Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 nice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 4.10's I agree on the torque. My guess is the conservative timing and a restrictive air intake setup is holding it back. Stay Tuned for the updated tune with the changes mentioned above. Something is starving that motor. It should make over 400rwhp with that big cam. Wanna see what it does with above mods mentioned. Nice a/f line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Brian Posted May 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Something is starving that motor. It should make over 400rwhp with that big cam. Wanna see what it does with above mods mentioned. Nice a/f line. The map sensor showed 92 kpa by the end of the run. So I agree with you Mr. Sam that the motor is starving for air. Hopefully the new intake setup wakes it up along with some more timing with 94 octane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach1647545520 Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 I love cam only LSx's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 I don't get it... Why would put forth the time, money, and (your) effort to get it tuned before doing the simple basic mods? For that matter, why not just do it all at the same time? Compared to the cam and springs, everything else should be relatively simple. Seems like a lid is one of the first things F-body owners buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 wow that is seems like nice mubers for jsut a cam anyone know how safe this cam is to run with stock heads etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbird Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Steve, I think the only problem would be that you might have to replace the valve springs a lot more often. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianZ06 Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 That is real close to the same power my 01 WS6 had with a comp custom 228 cam . I had 393/352 on a mustang dyno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 The map sensor showed 92 kpa by the end of the run. So I agree with you Mr. Sam that the motor is starving for air. Hopefully the new intake setup wakes it up along with some more timing with 94 octane. Will prolly pick up 10-15 more rwhp with a good intake like you mentioned. Keep us posted.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 wow that is seems like nice mubers for jsut a cam anyone know how safe this cam is to run with stock heads etc? If I remeber correctly....fly cutting is not necessary with the MS3, but you need to check the piston to valve clearance (you always should with a cam swap anyways.) With the MS4, it is necessary I believe, but to be 100% sure just call Texas Speed and they can tell you. On a second note, I think to many people over look the value a set of good flowing heads have. While yes, they are not the cheapest product to buy there are many affordable ones out there. Swapping them on a LS motor, is really not all that difficult and in return, you will greatly increase hp and tq numbers all the while imporving the effiency of the engine. At the same time, you will be utilizing the full potential of the increase lift and duration that the cam offers. Even a set of 243's, with mild porting will have great benefits. Just my $.02.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Btw, those are damn good numbers considering the extent of mod's to the car.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 If I remeber correctly....fly cutting is not necessary with the MS3, but you need to check the piston to valve clearance (you always should with a cam swap anyways.) With the MS4, it is necessary I believe, but to be 100% sure just call Texas Speed and they can tell you. On a second note, I think to many people over look the value a set of good flowing heads have. While yes, they are not the cheapest product to buy there are many affordable ones out there. Swapping them on a LS motor, is really not all that difficult and in return, you will greatly increase hp and tq numbers all the while imporving the effiency of the engine. At the same time, you will be utilizing the full potential of the increase lift and duration that the cam offers. Even a set of 243's, with mild porting will have great benefits. Just my $.02.... You're right. The MS3 fits with no issues. I agree with you 100% about the heads, especially with a cam that big. Those MS3's put down crazy top end numbers when you let em breathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 I ran this cam in my car when it made 441 rwhp and 415 tq. It is safe to run with stock heads/pistons, that is why this cam went into my car. Nice work Brian, that car should pick up another 20-30rwhp with the new mods he has planed. Great cam selection on a stock bottom end car, if I had to do it all over again I would still use that same cam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Something is starving that motor. Do you mean starving it of air? Just wondering, when people say that I usually imply fuel, but I'm guessing you mean air in this case. n/m, read the rest of the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTHER91 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 this is why i hate lsx motors im jealous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Anyone ever used an MS3 with an LQ4/9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Anyone ever used an MS3 with an LQ4/9? I used ported ls6 heads. I'm sure if you ported those the results would be similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Anyone ever used an MS3 with an LQ4/9? Heads or the whole motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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