jeffro Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 hey everyone, my search for a good tranny may finally be over. however, i need some assistance. i currently have a 10.5" king cobra clutch/pressure plate. my question is: can i use this disc http://www.jegs.com/i/Centerforce/183/384611/10002/-1 with my king cobra pressure plate? or are the discs specific to the pressure plates? i was going to use that disc, king cobra pressure plate, and this tko 600. http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151301. he mentioned having the chip adjusted from 13 pulses per rev, to 3 pulses per rev. is this true? any input from knowledgable dudes would be fucking sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 the pulse thing is for the speedo calibration. you just need a 26SPLINE disc for the king cobra clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 the pulse thing is for the speedo calibration. you just need a 26SPLINE disc for the king cobra clutch. does the disc have to be king cobra? or. i tried looking around and was unable to fund a king cobra clutch disc with 26 spline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 there isnt one...but the clutch disc from a gt500 may work. that or just buy a new clutch kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 does the disc have to be king cobra? or. i tried looking around and was unable to fund a king cobra clutch disc with 26 spline Just buy the whole setup. The pedal effort will be much nicer with a different pressure plate, assuming you would be going with a centerforce plate as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 make sure you get the 31 spline yoke from that guy if you buy the trans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 make sure you also mod the trans mount correctly aswell.. the tremec will sit low in the rear unless spaced back up correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 make sure you get the 31 spline yoke from that guy if you buy the trans isnt the stock gt driveshaft from an 03 31 spline as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedfocus1647545489 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 You can use a different brand disc with the King Cobra PP, however if you make enough power to have a need for that transmission I'd seriously consider a whole new clutch. Maybe the Centerforce DF, Ram or Spec. Perhaps even consider converting to an 11" setup. Re-using pressure plates can often lead to mixed results, much like using a specific type of brake pad on a rotor then switching to another brand, they often don't work as well as if they had been bed in on a fresh rotor. Edit: I just saw that it's a newer model car, so it may already be an 11". I'm thinking in Fox terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 You can use a different brand disc with the King Cobra PP, however if you make enough power to have a need for that transmission I'd seriously consider a whole new clutch. Maybe the Centerforce DF, Ram or Spec. Perhaps even consider converting to an 11" setup. Re-using pressure plates can often lead to mixed results, much like using a specific type of brake pad on a rotor then switching to another brand, they often don't work as well as if they had been bed in on a fresh rotor. Edit: I just saw that it's a newer model car, so it may already be an 11". I'm thinking in Fox terms. my flywheel is an aftermarket flywheel. i know for certain that it accepts 10.5" clutches as thats what i have now. i cant remember if it will take 11" or not. there is no way that ill produce enough HP/TQ to max this puppy out, im just sick and tired of going through t-45s. i was able to find a 10.5" king cobra clutch disc with 26 spline so ill be going that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 isnt the stock gt driveshaft from an 03 31 spline as well? not on the t-45 its not the 3560 is iirc i just tired to use a t45 shaft on a 31 spline....thats a big NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedfocus1647545489 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 not on the t-45 its not the 3560 is iirc Correct. If it's an '03 its a Tremec 3650 (after Borg Warner was bought out). It's similarly weak, but a little different than the t-45. I also thought that all of the GT's after '02 had the 11" clutch upgrade first used in the Bullitt, but I'm not 100% on that. I'm gettin' rusty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Correct. If it's an '03 its a Tremec 3650 (after Borg Warner was bought out). It's similarly weak, but a little different than the t-45. I also thought that all of the GT's after '02 had the 11" clutch upgrade first used in the Bullitt, but I'm not 100% on that. I'm gettin' rusty. no i have a 02 here with the 3650, and it dont have a 11"..its still a 10.5. most 02's have the 3650...but the early ones and the t-45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 not on the t-45 its not the 3560 is iirc i just tired to use a t45 shaft on a 31 spline....thats a big NO i used the same yoke on the t-45 and 3650. after my 3650 took a dump, i replaced it with a cheap t-45, so i know the shafts are the same. not trying to argue, but just get this minor confusion resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 are you sure you had a 3650? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 are you sure you had a 3650? im 100% positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedfocus1647545489 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Yeah, that's only on the TKOs. I had read Rob's post as him saying that's not a T-45 in the car, but a TR3650 which is why I was rambling on about 03's not being T-45s (though clearly you have swapped one in). Edit: I'm referring to the 31 spline output... I need to learn to use the quote feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Yeah, that's only on the TKOs. I had read Rob's post as him saying that's not a T-45 in the car, but a TR3650 which is why I was rambling on about 03's not being T-45s (though clearly you have swapped one in). Edit: I'm referring to the 31 spline output... I need to learn to use the quote feature. then how has he used the same drive shaft with the t-45 and the 3650... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedfocus1647545489 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 then how has he used the same drive shaft with the t-45 and the 3650... I'm retarded and can't write today. "Yeah, that's only the TKO" is the part that refers to the output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 ok so now yall got me confused. the seller says he used his stock 2002 yoke without any issues. he has the yoke, so ill pick it up just in case, although, i dont think ill need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedfocus1647545489 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 ok so now yall got me confused. the seller says he used his stock 2002 yoke without any issues. he has the yoke, so ill pick it up just in case, although, i dont think ill need it. That is odd. The only aftermarket Tremec trans I'm aware of that was still 28-Spline was the old TR-3550 they don't make anymore. To my knowledge ALL TKOs (old and new 500/600) are 31-spline. Beats me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 That is odd. The only aftermarket Tremec trans I'm aware of that was still 28-Spline was the old TR-3550 they don't make anymore. To my knowledge ALL TKOs (old and new 500/600) are 31-spline. Beats me. all tko's are 3550's. i have one here...its a tko1 with the tko600 upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTHER91 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Umm my old tko II is 31 spline I think rob don't know what he talking aboot hahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Umm my old tko II is 31 spline I think rob don't know what he talking aboot hahahah negative...but you need a diet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 negative...but you need a diet ouch. well, thanks for the confusion guys! :gtfo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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