87GT Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 This makes 100% cents rite? http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/02/22/where-miscarriages-are-a-crime When Miscarriages Are a Crime... Posted by Dan Savage on Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:06 PM ...only criminals will have miscarriages. A bill passed by the Utah House and Senate this week and waiting for the governor's signature, will make it a crime for a woman to have a miscarriage.... In addition to criminalizing an intentional attempt to induce a miscarriage or abortion, the bill also creates a standard that could make women legally responsible for miscarriages caused by "reckless" behavior. Using the legal standard of "reckless behavior" all a district attorney needs to show is that a woman behaved in a manner that is thought to cause miscarriage, even if she didn't intend to lose the pregnancy. If the governor signs the bill into law a woman in Utah who intentionally or accidentally induces a miscarriage can be charged with criminal homicide and sentenced to life in prison. Um... Utah? If every miscarriage is a potential homicide, how does Utah avoid launching a criminal investigation every time a woman has a miscarriage? And women have a lot of miscarriages: one in four pregnancies end in a miscarriage. And how is Utah supposed to know when a pregnant woman has had a miscarriage? You're going to have to create some sort of pregnancy registry to keep track of all those fetuses, Utah. Perhaps you could start issuing "conception certificates" to women who get pregnant? And then, if there isn't a baby within nine months of the issuance of a conception certificate, the woman could be hauled in for questioning and she could be indicted for criminal homicide if it's determined that she intentionally or accidentally induced a miscarriage. Of course, lots of women miscarry before they even realize their pregnant... so Utah will have to pass another law, one that compels all sexually active women—actually, let's just say all women, Utah, since some sexually active women claim they're chaste—to come in for mandatory monthly pregnancy tests... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 That's one way to put people to work, they will have to start building prisons in Utah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 They might as well outlaw Falcon Punches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 They might as well outlaw Falcon Punches. I think it's assault, it's covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 I think it's assault, it's covered. FUNNY JOKE IS NOT FUNNY NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supldys Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 wouldnt intentionally causing a miscarriage be an abortion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 this is another reason why i hate our government. state or federal. pick your poison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L. Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R. Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Really legit looking article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Really legit looking article. How is THIS? KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies. That prob doesn't suprise anyone on here Alex!! This is yet another dumb fucking law that makes you say "wow, really, wtf". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOPR Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 How is THIS? KillJoy PWWN3DD!!!!!!!! Anyway, Utah is full of religious idiots. Religious idiots do idiotic things. Sadly, I'm not surprised. It's fucking stupid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 it should be illegal to have intended miscarriages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 You guys need to calm down and understand the law that they are talking about a little better. The law is based an a case where a lady paid a guy $150 to beat her in an attempt to induce a miscarriage. This was not intended to disrupt the holy grail of liberalism, abortion. So calm down, and go stand on the picket line to save a death row inmate, while babies are killed, with the rest of the pro choice crowd. Sick quote of the day.... Joycelyn Elders: "We really need to get over this love affair with the fetus and start worrying about children." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidward Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 So if i were to beat up a pregnant women, SHE would get in trouble as well. hmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 You guys need to calm down and understand the law that they are talking about a little better. The law is based an a case where a lady paid a guy $150 to beat her in an attempt to induce a miscarriage. This was not intended to disrupt the holy grail of liberalism, abortion. So calm down, and go stand on the picket line to save a death row inmate, while babies are killed, with the rest of the pro choice crowd. Sick quote of the day.... So what. She made a business transaction with another party to intentionally have an abortion. A women should have that right if she wishes. This is no different then her right to go to a doctor for an abortion. Seriously the older I get the more I dislike passing laws on telling Americans what they can NOT do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 So what. She made a business transaction with another party to intentionally have an abortion. A women should have that right if she wishes. This is no different then her right to go to a doctor for an abortion. Seriously the older I get the more I dislike passing laws on telling Americans what they can NOT do. you cant honsetly think that allowing this is okay? P.s. im not against abortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supldys Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 So what. She made a business transaction with another party to intentionally have an abortion. A women should have that right if she wishes. This is no different then her right to go to a doctor for an abortion. Seriously the older I get the more I dislike passing laws on telling Americans what they can NOT do. Thays what I was going to get at. Its just another abortion argument but "intentional miscarriages" will make people stop and say "wtf" even though its the same thing. Although, I disagree with you on the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 it should be illegal to have intended miscarriages. But how do you make a law to prevent this, that doesn't screw over so many people that have unintentional miscarriages. Though I don't think there should be a law at all about it, and abortions should be more readily and easiliy available. We are an overpopulated country that really doesn't need ANOTHER unwanted child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 "make women legally responsible for miscarriages caused by "reckless" behavior" I don't think its as retarded as you guys make it out to be. Either you want the kid or you don't. If you want it, then you shouldn't be doing retarded shit like jumping on trampolines, smoking crack, whatever. And if you don't want it, go get an abortion. This is suppose to prevent the ol' coat hanger trick, or "accidentally" falling down stairs, and if you kill your baby because your a moron and decided its a good idea to go get shitfaced wasted, and you end up doing a couple of lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 You guys need to calm down and understand the law that they are talking about a little better. The law is based an a case where a lady paid a guy $150 to beat her in an attempt to induce a miscarriage. This was not intended to disrupt the holy grail of liberalism, abortion. So calm down, and go stand on the picket line to save a death row inmate, while babies are killed, with the rest of the pro choice crowd. Sick quote of the day.... I see what you're saying. What bothers me, though, is that this will be abused and I feel will open up a whole 'nother can o' worms. So if i were to beat up a pregnant women, SHE would get in trouble as well. hmm.... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 "make women legally responsible for miscarriages caused by "reckless" behavior" I don't think its as retarded as you guys make it out to be. Either you want the kid or you don't. If you want it, then you shouldn't be doing retarded shit like jumping on trampolines, smoking crack, whatever. And if you don't want it, go get an abortion. This is suppose to prevent the ol' coat hanger trick, or "accidentally" falling down stairs, and if you kill your baby because your a moron and decided its a good idea to go get shitfaced wasted, and you end up doing a couple of lines. This is how I understood the article as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Aborting is still legal in the United States. It needs to stay that way. A woman can make whatever choice to her body she wants as long as it doesn't affect anyone else, excluding herself and a unborn baby of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 In addition to criminalizing an intentional attempt to induce a miscarriage or abortion, the bill also creates a standard that could make women legally responsible for miscarriages caused by "reckless" behavior. "reckless" can be interpreted however a prosecutor wishes. Also, this would ban abortions as well. :thumbdown KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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