Mr. Jones Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Do I have enough "experience" to have this debate? Probably not. I believe this article. I believe that pads melt onto the rotors. I also have heard that excess heat, and improper lug nut tq causes the rotors to warp. Do I have any scientific proof of either? No Do you guys? None has been presented. Not 1 picture, nothing but opinions as of now. Contrary to what some of my posts might have implied, I do believe that heat, improper tq and pad transfer are ALL responsible for warped rotors. I simply wanted a discussion on the matter. I won't lie, I do and will continue to believe that pad transfer contributes to the majority of warped rotors until a picture, or personal evidence is provided. You guys can call it hard headedness or me retarded all you want. Is it really a big deal that I expect more than personal testimonials as my proof? The front rotors on my GTI were warped. I will be taking them down to o'reileys sometime this week to see what we come up with. I will take pictures and post my findings. Almost everybody in here needs a few beers or some alone time with lotion asap. Its a discussion, grow up. Fag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 I would also like to add that everyone who said that the pads DON'T melt onto the rotor are JUST as wrong as everyone is telling me I am. Sinister ss littleguy evilnotch habitual sinner ta in progress haole crossle And to those that don't understand how you can melt brake pad material onto the rotor and still yield a thinner than factory rotor, think harder. wayne crossle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Fag. I hope your rotors warp from heat:asshole: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 I hope your rotors warp from heat:asshole: Not likely as I invested in some real brakes...:gtfo: You'll just warp this new set of OEM rotors just as fast as the first ones due to your poor habits, and improper heat cycling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Not likely as I invested in some real brakes...:gtfo: You'll just warp this new set of OEM rotors just as fast as the first ones due to your poor habits, and improper heat cycling. Dude, you got bigger rotors, and pads. lol I hope your stock rubber lines blow out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossle Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Facepalm I'm learning a little but here, but it's def. from Aj and Craig......since years of experience always owns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Dude, you got bigger rotors, and pads. lol I hope your stock rubber lines blow out I got larger 2 piece slotted rotors with directional veins which also weigh 10lbs less a corner and have held up remarkably well. I'm very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 I would also like to add that everyone who said that the pads DON'T melt onto the rotor are JUST as wrong as everyone is telling me I am. Sinister ss littleguy evilnotch habitual sinner ta in progress haole crossle And to those that don't understand how you can melt brake pad material onto the rotor and still yield a thinner than factory rotor, think harder. wayne crossle i would like to point out that i'm not on either list because i'm that awesome. p.s. alot of gm rotors grow or get thicker. this is caused by rust though. p.p.s. i would also like to point out that i have solved the problem as to why heads on engines warp (iron and aluminum) and need machined to correct it. its the brake pads, those stupid brake pads are transfering material to the cylinder heads and warping them!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 i would like to point out that i'm not on either list because i'm that awesome. p.s. alot of gm rotors grow or get thicker. this is caused by rust though. p.p.s. i would also like to point out that i have solved the problem as to why heads on engines warp (iron and aluminum) and need machined to correct it. its the brake pads, those stupid brake pads are transfering material to the cylinder heads and warping them!!! Incorrect again, it's the head gaskets causing material transfer, DUH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackMess Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Read that if you take the pad and rotors off the vehicle and rub them on the concrete it will resolve this issue. Is this true?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Double Post PS: Everybody in this thread can agree that both scenario's can happen. I was hoping Aaron would get off his vaginal juice stained soapbox, but hell we don't always get what we want. But hell this is what CR is for, arguing. Back to your regularly scheduled idiocy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R. Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 I love how at the beginning of the thread you said you were open to opposing views and called this a debate, yet you only cite one article from one person. You would make a great politician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Good thing certain people have left this forum or this thread would be twice as long with even more retarded posts. I still think that no matter what has caused braking problems the fix is the same and this argument is a huge waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) I got larger 2 piece slotted rotors with directional veins which also weigh 10lbs less a corner and have held up remarkably well. I'm very happy. FAG i would like to point out that i'm not on either list because i'm that awesome. p.s. alot of gm rotors grow or get thicker. this is caused by rust though. p.p.s. i would also like to point out that i have solved the problem as to why heads on engines warp (iron and aluminum) and need machined to correct it. its the brake pads, those stupid brake pads are transfering material to the cylinder heads and warping them!!! Agreed on all counts! Especially the warped heads! You are much better at explaining your thoughts than I am and you have the experience I lack. Thanks for contributing. Incorrect again, it's the head gaskets causing material transfer, DUH. I hate you!!! VAG COM my car bitch!!!! Double Post PS: Everybody in this thread can agree that both scenario's can happen. I was hoping Aaron would get off his vaginal juice stained soapbox, but hell we don't always get what we want. But hell this is what CR is for, arguing. Back to your regularly scheduled idiocy. I have stepped off the soapbox. Thanks for your time. I love how at the beginning of the thread you said you were open to opposing views and called this a debate, yet you only cite one article from one person. You would make a great politician. CHANGE! I posted up an article I thought was interesting, nothing more. I was hoping it would spark a conversation, and it did. Edited July 20, 2010 by Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 VAG COM my car bitch!!!! Sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Good thing certain people have left this forum or this thread would be twice as long with even more retarded posts. I still think that no matter what has caused braking problems the fix is the same and this argument is a huge waste of time. No argument on the internet is a waste of time!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 BREK PAEDZ???? POEPL US THOES?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 In theory, this wasn't a bad idea either... right? http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k61/mark4091_2006/dei.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TA In Progress Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 I would also like to add that everyone who said that the pads DON'T melt onto the rotor are JUST as wrong as everyone is telling me I am. Sinister ss littleguy evilnotch habitual sinner ta in progress haole crossle And to those that don't understand how you can melt brake pad material onto the rotor and still yield a thinner than factory rotor, think harder. wayne crossle You should've actually read my post before adding me to your list. I never said that pads couldn't melt or adhere to the rotor. I was simply reinforcing the fact that a rotor can actually warp, or become untrue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 In theory, this wasn't a bad idea either... right? http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k61/mark4091_2006/dei.jpg its called EGR so it must not have been that bad of idea lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I have a lathe in the back of my store bring me a rotor from a car with a brake pulsation and I will show you that its warped...... a double steak burrito from chipotle says its warped from the hat all the way to the lip wich would throw the whole pad material stuck to the rotor argument right out the window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Do I have enough "experience" to have this debate? Probably not. Then, why are you? Do you guys? None has been presented. Not 1 picture, nothing but opinions as of now. Not opinions, man. Years of actual, first-hand experience. How has that not sunken in for you yet? Is it really a big deal that I expect more than personal testimonials as my proof? Yes. All you have provided is... are you ready for it? One dude's personal testimonial. Not even your own. The front rotors on my GTI were warped. I will be taking them down to o'reileys sometime this week to see what we come up with. I will take pictures and post my findings. See man, some in this thread have already been down the road you're heading down for the first time many, many times, and have already done all the learning and researching you're yapping about. Now, I do agree about needing a beer. There, we agree on something. http://www.cslacker.com/images/file/mediums/beer_godess.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 This thread was almost to stupid to post in. If you honestly think and are arguing the fact that the pad is full on what causes a warped rotor and not heat and cooling of the metal, you need to go to columbus state and take auto 60 and 61.... And last time I looked around it is very ahrd for anyone to be on the side of a Process Administrator vs a auto tech on car repair and diag.... Sorry dont believe everything that is posted on the interenet even if for 10 seconds it kinda makes sense but only if it is saturday and you are hung over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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