Evolved8 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Ok So there are so many threads online that I have searched. I want to see what my local people have done. Please input some advise on a proper catch can setup on a Turbocharged car. How would you do it if you were in my situation.... I have a valvecover with 2 -10 an fittings coming off of it. The -10 an off the back is where the factory pcv and line from the Intake manifold was ran. The fitting on the right of the valvecover is where I just had a breather on the old valve cover. Where do you route from there? The moroso can I belive I need only has one An fitting on it.. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k198/projectturboex/IMAG0057.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Do a search on LS1 tech surrounding 'Mike Norris Catch Cans' MOST catch cans out there are just hollow cans with fittings on them, which work to a certain degree. However, there are 2 catch cans that I know of that actually have a 'spongy media' inside that work to slow down the blowby gases and also provide more surface area for the oil droplets to condense. The Mike Norris catch can is ~$100. I forget what the other brand is, but its some japanese company (if you read the threads on ls1 tech you'll find the other name.). I still have mine hooked up inline with a vacuum reference to the manifold to make sure that the vacuum system pulls all the vapor and junk out of my crankcase. For an N/A motor if you don't have vacuum to pull crankcase gasses you will foul your oil pretty quickly. However, with a boosted motor you might get away with not having to pull vacuum. Here is a pic of the can on my car. Pretty much in the middle of the picture located on the front of the driver side cylinder head. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c192/BertoBizkit/RX-7/LS1%20Swap%20into%20the%20RX-7/DSC03544.jpg http://mikenorrismotorsports.com/Billet_PCV_Catch_Cans.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolved8 Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 thanks anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Check this out. Its proper and when done correctly, no oil is passed to the turbo through the intake. http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/custom-fabrication/372279-my-new-crankcase-evactuation-system.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Check this out. Its proper and when done correctly, no oil is passed to the turbo through the intake. http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/custom-fabrication/372279-my-new-crankcase-evactuation-system.html Hell yeah, Paul Volk & crew are awesome. You can even go a touch further to create suction by creating a venturi and Ting the middle for a source of suction. You can find the parts at McMaster. Another idea is to reroute the drain to the oil dpstick slot. The "cyclone seperators" on the E39 BMW M5's had this neat idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboRust Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 holy turbo manifold batman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolved8 Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Thanks that helps alot wouldnt the suction from the turbo intake be a little overpowering at 20+ psi?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Steve, if you want to come over and look at my catch can setup tomorrow night let me know. It's not a turbo setup but you are more than welcome to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 More boost=more crankcase pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolved8 Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Steve, if you want to come over and look at my catch can setup tomorrow night let me know. It's not a turbo setup but you are more than welcome to look at it. Cool man Ill call you. And the other guy, Iam talking about the an line i would run to the turbo intake in wot wouldnt that be to much suction going into the can? i noticed that guy made a fitting with an opening on one side not against the incomming air... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-engine-fuel/366890-4g63t-pcv-system.html#post152294004 Read this for more info. The system in the first link, is setup correctly. Whether its 5 or 40 lbs of boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolved8 Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Buschur makes a really good one that returns the oil down the dipstick tube and works really good in relieving some of the crank case pressure. In his testing it picked up a few HP, but the main advantage is less stress on the seals. I went through a couple rear mains at 30+psi before having a catch can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGU Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 (edited) Steve the one i was going to do is just run the 2 out of my valve covers to a catch can with a filter on it. I wasnt planning on running another line to my intake. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/2zumeunos/SC300/winter%2009/DSC_0574.jpg the -10an is there by the wiring harness on the valve cover and one on the other side. mine will be ran like this one http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c216/homiehookup2/cars/Picture085b.jpg steve, if you want to run a AN line to the intake your catch can needs 3 an fittings. 2 for the valve cover and 1 for the intake. Edited October 19, 2010 by BIGGU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 kinda hard to see. http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k158/9t1tsi/DSC_0009.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Here's a writeup I did on another forum. I've been asked many and seen the question asked about installing a catch can on the 7mgte. Here's a quick rundown of how I did it. Ok. Here are a few random pics I took today and an old full shot of my motor before some changes. You can still see the setup, though. It's been on for about 2yrs now. I've numbered some things to help explain. Sorry if the numbers are a bit small. They are in red, though. 1 - catch can (Mine has a silica filter to help trap oil, a drain on the bottom or I can unscrew the cylinder from the top and clean/dump. You want something easy to clean out. I never use the drain, I remove the bottome section because I like to clean it completely. I know many "catch cans" don't have this option, however. You don't have to have a filter media. I think it helps. If you buy one without filter media and it can be opened, just buy some **metal sponge scrubbers(see next pic)** from walmart of a grocery store and stuff them in the 'intake' or filter side of the catch. As you'll see in the pics, I've mounted mine in a location that not only has plenty of room, but was located in a good location for how I wanted to run it, but most importantly, it's located in a cooler location. If you do not mount your catch in a cool location, much of the oil will not condense and will pass right though! **Like this or similar:** http://www.hoeggergoatsupply.com/xcart/files/t_3307_01.jpg 2 - two hoses coming from cam covers and then tee'd into one. Some catches have two intake hose nipples, mine does not. 3 - return pipe (modified = pipes cut off from bottom and then braised shut.) I wanted to keep a stock looks and not have all this extra rubber hose running everywhere like many people do. This looks clean and stock and many don't even realize what I've done until I show them. (I think it looks obvious, but if you don't know...) 4 - return hose. This runs from the catch to the modified pipe which runs to the original, stock location located on the intake accordian hose. ***Addition/Edit*** Throttle body port should be teed in to hose #4. It does not currently show it in the pics as I haven't had time to take any new ones. Pics will changed later. I need to fab up a little bracket for the catch (Right now, there's just the zip tie - which does work fine for now) and rerun the return hose (4) in a more discreet way. Here are the pics, now. I wish the pics and process would have been better documented, but I hadn't originally planned on doing a writeup. Let me know if you have any questions. Christian http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k58/ImUrOBGYN/Car/IMG_1052.jpg http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k58/ImUrOBGYN/Car/IMG_1053.jpg http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k58/ImUrOBGYN/Car/IMG_1054.jpg http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k58/ImUrOBGYN/Car/IMG_1055.jpg http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k58/ImUrOBGYN/89ToyotaSupraTurbo.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGU Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 from what ive been reading do not put any foam or metal scrubbers inside the catch can. the foam over time will break down and get sucked in along with the metal scrubber is can get sucked into the car. Get a proper catch can that has been baffled. using metal screen or something thats held into place and wont deteriorate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolved8 Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Looks good Iam just waiting on this can to make it in from that guy that makes them on DSM tuners. More progress to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Mines got the 2 pcv tubes from the valve cover as well. I only put a catch on the one going to the intake tube right before the turbo, so to catch anything going through it and gunking up the intercooler... the other is free to blow crap into the intake manifold, though I know it would be better to a) cap it and let all go through the one, or b) get another can This is just an AMW one I got from 1slow-z You can see it inserted on the intake to valve cover line. The other line is behind that sticker to the top left, and runs down to the manifold. http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a299/iwashmycar/c6597e61.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Looks good Iam just waiting on this can to make it in from that guy that makes them on DSM tuners. More progress to come Calan is a really good guy. He knows his stuff. And his products look fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolved8 Posted October 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 does $147 shipped sound right his price on the site i thought was cheaper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 from what ive been reading do not put any foam or metal scrubbers inside the catch can. the foam over time will break down and get sucked in along with the metal scrubber is can get sucked into the car. Get a proper catch can that has been baffled. using metal screen or something thats held into place and wont deteriorate. This is what I was about to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 does $147 shipped sound right his price on the site i thought was cheaper? No thats right. Is it polished? If not, P&P polishes He did have a sale for 130 shipped a few weeks ago. But thats over. So thats the price i got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolved8 Posted October 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 negative. but you will be doing a matte black finish once i get a bracket and figure out where to mount it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 The one he puts on there should be usable to bolt to the firewall. The one i got for my car is cylindrical and he has a bracket those goes around the back to bolt to a flat surface. I would just take it to IPS and have them weld a piece of aluminum to it to get it to work. Youll be impressed when you get it from Calan. His products are impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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