jermattak Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 no not the beads! weve all discussed this in depth in another thread, they are poo poo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600f3 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 im might have a bit of experience already, 14 years of motocross racing, 6 as a mechanic, certified by three major name brands and grew up around drag bikes. but im not here to argue or play games with anyone who finds it so easy to get mouthy behind a computer screen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600f3 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 and lead weights stay in one place. well what about your normal tire wear? generally the left side of the tire will wear faster with normal riders and the dreaded cupping effect happens quite often as well. all of that will also throw a tire out of balance. Not to mention harder riders wil have cupping, un even tire wear etc.. them are just some of my thoughts. im just amazed at how cranky some people get over nothing around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 TITS or GTFO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 and lead weights stay in one place. well what about your normal tire wear? generally the left side of the tire will wear faster with normal riders and the dreaded cupping effect happens quite often as well. all of that will also throw a tire out of balance. Not to mention harder riders wil have cupping, un even tire wear etc.. them are just some of my thoughts. im just amazed at how cranky some people get over nothing around hereI worked in the tire industry for 6 years, beads are shit. Retarded to use them, especially on a high performance bike. But have fun with that, it's your bike fuck it up any way you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6KID Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I have put beads in customer wheels, and just out of curiosity put them on the spin balancer and multiple time it called for different amounts of weight in different spots. Ranging from .25oz to 1.50oz. As far as the balance dot. Well not all tires have them, and why is it when you line the dot up it calls for X amount of weight 90 degrees or wherever it may be from the valve stem. So you turn the X spot to the valve stem and if the need for weight doesnt go away the amount drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Back-in-the-day:Back yard mechanic. We would pull the tire and axle, clean the grease out, use a light weight oil, and set it up on a 2x4 stand to hold the axle, and spin it. If it went backwards, it needed weights. If it stopped same place each time, it needed weights. We used to wrap electrical solder around the spokes, and cut it off till it was the right weight. It worked good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6KID Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 If you are someone who is willing to balace your wheels you CANT just rely on the dot. It doesnt alwayse work. If you dont normally balance your wheels then so be it. If its worked for you this long then dont change a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600f3 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 what im not getting is how its going to "fuck it up" ? i dont see how its a bad thing at all. oh well im done on here with this whole discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6KID Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Im not saying its a bad thing im just stating my experience with them. I personally like the idea of using them on chrome or painted wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600f3 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 i didnt mean anything to you paskey, just some others that jumped to ass mode so quickly. and that all i was saying from the get go, good for show bikes etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Why would someone even bother balancing the tires on a show bike? And I'm as lightened up as I get. Fresh fish sure are easy to catch.Wanna play a little slap & tickle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600f3 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 lol you guys do whatever you want or think what you want but hey at least i'll be know as the ass that wouldn't let the tire bead discussion go down without a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600f3 Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 by golly George i think i do have it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 by golly George i think i do have it So you wanna play slap and tickle too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600f3 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 lol i dont know what that is or if i want to know either lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotaman88210 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 ^^ Oh believe me, you want to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fueljunkie1 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 You guys are KILLING ME! Look at the tags..."ass pennies, balancing, keyboard warrior, sheep anal beeds, tire" I'm going to have a FMMI (fuckin mass myocardial infarction) ROTFLMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Beads belong in the ass, not in tiresremember when you pull them back out you arent trying to start a lawn mower!! be gentle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvx216 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 use beads on my LT 1200 k and my 750 Katana if you use them you need to get a electric engraver to help them down the stem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmonger Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 bought a balancer, just changed about 7 wheels/tires, getting ready to head to jennings next week. Plan on balancing my track tires for the first time!!!!!! not using the beads, my girl doesnt like them. hahahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Dude, if you are even a beginner racer, you have to balance tires. You cannot tell me with any honesty that if you are running a race pace that you have just been lucky in not having to balance the tires you've raced on. Even a newb will get their bike up to a high speed on the straight at most tracks and an unbalanced tire is never any good and totally noticeable right off...A slight shimmy can make your day a hell of an experience. Slight shimmy is a bad thing - especially at the track. 150 plus with a shimmy makes shit come apart.Hope you know what you are doing, too. Doing it wrong can be as bad as not doing it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) I can honestly say from first hand experience, you can't always feel a out of balance tire on a motorcycle.I seen a guy going down the highway with his front tire bouncing off the ground.I happen to exit at the same exit so I said something to him, he had no idea it was doing it.I would never ride it without balancing the tires. just because you can't feel it doesn't mean the suspension isn't feeling it.I have had a few bridgestones not need balancing weights though. some of the best tires I've ever had. Edited March 18, 2009 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 im might have a bit of experience already, 14 years of motocross racing, 6 as a mechanic, certified by three major name brands and grew up around drag bikes. but im not here to argue or play games with anyone who finds it so easy to get mouthy behind a computer screen...14 years at what level? 6 years as how good of a tech? What kind of drag bikes? NHRA? AHDRA?Thing is when I hear people brag about their experience, I tend to let them know that I respect their experience, but realize that you can have years of bad experience...Beads are not a great or better choice than weights. You can assk guys with "experience" as tire guys and they wwill tell you.They aren't "racers", either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Beads are not a great or better choice than weights. You can assk guys with "experience" as tire guys and they wwill tell you.They aren't "racers", either...werd. I'm far from bein a "racer" but tires? I've seen a couple;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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