dover Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Finally out of the Army this week! I am going to begin school or maybe a career. Looking for a foot in the door or some personal advice on job positions. C.I.A. Is currently my number 1 but I am willing to do anything. I have put out my resume to a few other places. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 I'll do some asking around for you. Willing to do any ITish type work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 If you don't have atleast an associates degree, most of the agencies won't even look at you, especially the CIA. Now, you're best chances are DEA, FBI and the easiest being Border Patrol. CIA is quite picky especially the clandestine service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mseebs Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Most Government agencies won't look at you without a Bachelors, even with military service. (I actually think the FBI/CIA requires it) Now if you get a Criminal Justice/Criminology bachelors then go back with your military background, you'll get a huge boost over other candidates. CJ is a pretty easy major, I did it for 3 years and had no problems with it. You could also look into Law Enforcement, but you're still going to want at least an Associates to get looked at by bigger departments. Look at this way, the military is going to pay for you to go to school. Go do it. My brother is on the GI Bill and its worked damn good for him. Pay for school, his books, and his rent. And he still has plenty of left over money for other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Do you have clearance currently? If so TS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadDawg Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Neighbor is FBI. Does some kinda stuff he doesn't like to talk about very much. FBI won't even talk to you without a 4-year degree. He has 2 Bachelor's and a Masters. Not sure what fields. He even looks like a TV FBI agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Hal Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Do you have a bachelor's degree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Most Government agencies won't look at you without a Bachelors, even with military service. (I actually think the FBI/CIA requires it) Now if you get a Criminal Justice/Criminology bachelors then go back with your military background, you'll get a huge boost over other candidates. CJ is a pretty easy major, I did it for 3 years and had no problems with it. You could also look into Law Enforcement, but you're still going to want at least an Associates to get looked at by bigger departments. Look at this way, the military is going to pay for you to go to school. Go do it. My brother is on the GI Bill and its worked damn good for him. Pay for school, his books, and his rent. And he still has plenty of left over money for other things. Not true on the criminal justice/criminology. FBI and CIA don't like those degrees very much, and most applicants have graduate degrees. I'm not sure where you got your information, but it's slightly flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dover Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 No degree and I have a Secret clearance, I have the paperwork prepared for my TS. not really looking to do IT work, id like to get on a task force of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 You will need to get your Bachelors for either the CIA or FBI. It's going to be about the same for almost any other "big name" agency. That's the bottom line. An Associates will not even get you an application to the FBI or CIA. Where do you want to go to school? OSU has an excellent Security and Intelligence program; Tiffin has a really good Homeland Security program. I can only speak personally about the OSU program, but I'll answer any questions you have on that. A couple FBI people I know did the Tiffin route. Like I said earlier, Criminology/Criminal Justice are not as good as people think. That is especially true with the FBI; everything you learn in that program, they will teach you at the academy. What do you want to do? I can speak about a lot of the different opportunities in those agencies, depending upon what you want. Your clearance is nice, but not a crazy kicker. You will have to get a TS clearance, so it at least looks good to already have the Secret. Your biggest plus, after a degree, is that you are/were military. The FBI really gives a lot of points to vets. That counts through the hiring process and promotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mseebs Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Not true on the criminal justice/criminology. FBI and CIA don't like those degrees very much, and most applicants have graduate degrees. I'm not sure where you got your information, but it's slightly flawed. My cousin's wife is an FBI agent and she had Criminology, but guess it changed since then. I was in cj for Policing anyway. Look at this way Dover. Even if you did get a job somehow in one of these agencies. To advance anywhere, you'd still need a degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 My cousin's wife is an FBI agent and she had Criminology, but guess it changed since then. I was in cj for Policing anyway. Look at this way Dover. Even if you did get a job somehow in one of these agencies. To advance anywhere, you'd still need a degree. I'm not saying it's impossible, there are a lot of agents with those degrees. The problem is that this job market is saturated with experienced people that have more desirable degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mseebs Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I'm not saying it's impossible, there are a lot of agents with those degrees. The problem is that this job market is saturated with experienced people that have more desirable degrees. No shit, one of the reasons I left CJ, getting a job as a Police Officer is fucking impossible these days unless you know some one. Curious though, since the S&I program at OSU is a minor, what would be a recommended major? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 No shit, one of the reasons I left CJ, getting a job as a Police Officer is fucking impossible these days unless you know some one. Curious though, since the S&I program at OSU is a minor, what would be a recommended major? It is offered as both a major and a minor. If you want to go the minor route (i changed my major to History because I hate foreign languages) try Sociology or Psychology. Both offer exceptional insight into why people do what they do. If I weren't so close to graduation, I would have chosen Psych over History. Here's the .Pdf info about the major program. http://internationalstudies.osu.edu/files/internationalstudies/S&I%20major.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentStateTsi Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 You mean your acap person can't get you contacts? Oh yeah....its an army program ran by worthless civilians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I have a bachelors.... Can I work for the FBI or CIA? That'd be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChris1632X Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Dover I know some people in different agencies. I have had a couple friends go with FBI. Some made it and some did not. You know one of the guys. We partied together. He is now in the FBI and has a Intel degree from OSU. He also tried secret service and CIA. I'm sure he could fill you in personally. You WILL have to get a degree first, and you will have to give it a year or more to go through the process of getting accepted and hired on. Call me if you want more info about it. I might be able to get you a state security job out here at the base if you are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedrx7 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 how many languages can you speak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedrx7 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 http://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-CIA-Agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 http://www.wikihow.com/Become-a-CIA-Agent Avoid any site that can't even get the job title correct. FBI has agents, CIA has officers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dover Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thanks for all the information and PM's I have a couple meetings set up and am passing on my resume. I fully intend on a degree and it will most likely be in international business, as that is what I have been told is desired currently. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 You may look into the Secret Service also. It may be something to get you by until you have some contacts/references until you get what you are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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