AWW$HEEET Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Libertarian colonies offshore. Read about it here: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/silicon-valley-billionaire-funding-creation-artificial-libertarian-islands-140840896.html Pay Pal founder and early Facebook investor Peter Thiel has given $1.25 million to an initiative to create floating libertarian countries in international waters, according to a profile of the billionaire in Details magazine. Thiel has been a big backer of the Seasteading Institute, which seeks to build sovereign nations on oil rig-like platforms to occupy waters beyond the reach of law-of-the-sea treaties. The idea is for these countries to start from scratch--free from the laws, regulations, and moral codes of any existing place. Details says the experiment would be "a kind of floating petri dish for implementing policies that libertarians, stymied by indifference at the voting booths, have been unable to advance: no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons." "There are quite a lot of people who think it's not possible," Thiel said at a Seasteading Institute Conference in 2009, according to Details. (His first donation was in 2008, for $500,000.) "That's a good thing. We don't need to really worry about those people very much, because since they don't think it's possible they won't take us very seriously. And they will not actually try to stop us until it's too late." The Seasteading Institute's Patri Friedman says the group plans to launch an office park off the San Francisco coast next year, with the first full-time settlements following seven years later. Thiel made news earlier this year for putting a portion of his $1.5 billion fortune into an initiative to encourage entrepreneurs to skip college. Another Silicon Valley titan, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, announced in June that he would be funding the "Clock of the Long Now." The clock is designed to keep ticking for 10,000 years, and will be built in a mountain in west Texas. [/Quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Sounds like a trick to ship people they don't like out to sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Can I go in on a condo with someone? We can say we're permanent residents! When I was a banker in FL, people would charter a boat, bring a notary, and go offshore further than 9 miles from the coast in order to sign a real-estate deal and avoid certain stamp fees and taxes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye1647545503 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 You must have never seen water world .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I'd rather move out in the middle of nowhere up in the hills/mountains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted August 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I'd rather move out in the middle of nowhere up in the hills/mountains. and still be bound by laws, taxes, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I'd rather move out in the middle of nowhere up in the hills/mountains. and still be bound by laws, taxes, etc? What laws, the law of not a single living human being around you within miles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I'd rather move out in the middle of nowhere up in the hills/mountains. Plenty of off-the-grid places still available in the nice parts of the country. If you don't mind living off that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Off the top of my head, Arkansas, Montana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Arizona etc.... I'll wait til the first Hurricane ruins the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWW$HEEET Posted August 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 true, i still wanna open our zday compound in wva. totally feasable. dirt cheap land, lawless living (almost), free booze (moonshine), etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 true, i still wanna open our zday compound in wva. totally feasable. dirt cheap land, lawless living (almost), free booze (moonshine), etc Yup. Gimme a Bobcat, some dirt, rock and concrete and I'll do work. Off shore sounds great in theory, but I'm not keen on the idea of middle of the ocean. New Orleans found out you can't fuck with mother nature. That cunt wins everytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 You must have never seen water world .. That's exactly what I was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 This isn't really an original idea... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yup. Gimme a Bobcat, some dirt, rock and concrete and I'll do work. Off shore sounds great in theory, but I'm not keen on the idea of middle of the ocean. New Orleans found out you can't fuck with mother nature. That cunt wins everytime. I have honestly thought about throwing in the towel selling everything i own and moving into the mountains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Question: what happens when your neighbor on the offshore utopia thinks getting rid of idiotic moral codes and taxes includes his god-given right to kidnap and molest your children at gunpoint, and he's got bigger guns than you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Question: what happens when your neighbor on the offshore utopia thinks getting rid of idiotic moral codes and taxes includes his god-given right to kidnap and molest your children at gunpoint, and he's got bigger guns than you? You trust the community won't be a bunch of sissy childish brats, and round up a posse. So long as the community in general has a standardized moral code they're stronger than a small band of individuals. Of course, you could always cry about it and get the US to come fix your problems and rebuild your shit for you I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedfocus1647545489 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?aid=3012 Didn't work out for Peter Griffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10phone2 Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Libertarian colonies offshore. Read about it here: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/silicon-valley-billionaire-funding-creation-artificial-libertarian-islands-140840896.html Howd the Jenken work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8tn Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Off the top of my head, Arkansas, Montana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Arizona etc.... I'll wait til the first Hurricane ruins the idea. people have already tried that.....then the ATF comes in and burns your house down and starts shooting people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Ever seen Beach? Yeah...fuck that. I'll take living in this beautiful country. Just don't be a dick. Act like a god damn man and keep a gun on you at all times and life will be just fine. Fucking pussies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Either way, I still have to put up with someone else's bullshit. This is only solved with my very own self-sustaining island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 people have already tried that.....then the ATF comes in and burns your house down and starts shooting people. True statement. They'll shoot your dog and kids on top of that. Atleast you wouldn't worry about Somalian pirates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC K9 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Off the top of my head, Arkansas, Montana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Arizona etc.... I'll wait til the first Hurricane ruins the idea. Montana or Alaska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Ask Australia how that worked out for them in the end. (And they were criminals LOL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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