zeitgeist57 Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 They certainly promote them enough on the Powerblock. Snake oil, or decent for the dough? This would be for my 6cyl Ford truck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cranium Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Clay? Really? I have some ocean front property in Kansas if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 It is always acceptable to ask a question, it is never acceptable to be ignorant. - Fortune Cookie KETTLE, BLACK MUCH?!?11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Fucking garbage, Clay.... google search once and a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Alright...geez! Champion 4011 are on their way! $0.79 at Rockauto.com! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye1647545503 Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 I would be interested in the next dyno day Brian has in doing a back to back run with a plug swap just to see the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Alright...geez! Champion 4011 are on their way! $0.79 at Rockauto.com! Really? Champions are for Mopars and lawn mowers. Autolites and Motorcrafts are for Ford. AC Delco for GM, and NGK for everyone else. This my opinion of course so take it however you want, but I have never had good experience with Champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Really? Champions are for Mopars and lawn mowers. Autolites and Motorcrafts are for Ford. AC Delco for GM, and NGK for everyone else. This my opinion of course so take it however you want, but I have never had good experience with Champion. You forgot bosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 You forgot bosch Worse much?:dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Worse much?:dumb: Bosch side fires are actually miracle plugs in some euro applications chief. :dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Bosch side fires are actually miracle plugs in some euro applications chief. :dumb: Not when I get those misfiring junk ass Bosch +4s show up in some GM I'm working on, maybe they have something decent for the VAGs but I wouldn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Not when I get those misfiring junk ass Bosch +4s show up in some GM I'm working on, maybe they have something decent for the VAGs but I wouldn't know. No, not those shitty plat 4's :dumb: Sidefires: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 So they do make something decent other then O2 sensors, I don't work on the VAGs so like I said, I didn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 So they do make something decent other then O2 sensors, I don't work on the VAGs so like I said, I didn't know. Yeah they are a godsend on certain applications. Cures all kinds of high boost/ rpm breakups for a lot of people. I'm swapping them into everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Yeah they are a godsend on certain applications. Cures all kinds of high boost/ rpm breakups for a lot of people. I'm swapping them into everything! Good to know, I'll have to keep that in mind if I come across any of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cranium Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 They certainly promote them enough on the Powerblock. Snake oil, or decent for the dough? This would be for my 6cyl Ford truck... Problems I've read about them start with the fact you can't gap them because you can't get the shim in place with 3 electrodes. Also that the extra electrodes get in the way of the burn as it expands out from the source of ignition. They are preying on the population that always believes more is better. Hell, some body has one out now with 4 electrodes. Pretty soon some one will probably come out with so many electrodes it won't work at all because the fuel can't get to the spark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Actually, Popular Mechanics had an article on a pulse ion spark plug, that shot out a piezo-plasma lightning bolt into the cylinder. I think it was to ignite very lean A/F mixtures... Cool starry bra I know, but there is some LEGITIMATE development going for internal combustion engines... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POS VETT Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Clay - I know you drive a busted and old F100, a knocking GM truck, an old-ass VW and you used to own a trailer-park C4, but E3 spark plugs ? This has gotta be a new low ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Yeah....E3's are a gimmick...just like +4's. Sidefires cured the slight misfires I got in the S4 at idle, and you don't even have to gap them. Besides that, you can't beat regular old copper plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyc12340 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Densos? I had a good luck with Densos with my sti and thats what rally peaple recommended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossle Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Denso, Champion, NGK, AC Delco, AND Bosch (for air cooled engines and limited Euro applications) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex L. Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 E3 might pay Spike for that promotion, not sure though. Can anyone verify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Clay - I know you drive a busted and old F100, a knocking GM truck, an old-ass VW and you used to own a trailer-park C4, but E3 spark plugs ? This has gotta be a new low ... ouch. :fa: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I usually recommend Chrysler: Champion Ford: Motorcraft GM: AC Delco Euro: Bosch single electrode Japan: NGK or higher end Denso. Even then I don't really get why the brand matters. A spark plug just jumps an electrical arc across a gap. The arc just superheats the air/fuel mix in it's immediate vicinity. The rest of the combustion is just a chain reaction, the initial spark has nothing to do with the full burn. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Really? Champions are for Mopars and lawn mowers. Autolites and Motorcrafts are for Ford. AC Delco for GM, and NGK for everyone else. This my opinion of course so take it however you want, but I have never had good experience with Champion. NGK makes ac delco. Used to pull them out of the box and they were stamped around the base metal NGK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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