87GT Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 My grandfather gave me 3 of his shotguns this weekend. They are all break open guns. One of them looks like it would be a black power shotgun. There is not much of anything stamped on the barrel. One has a company i've never heard of, one is from sears roebuck, and they all have the gauge on them. If I take off the wooden stock under the gun and remove the barrel I see random numbers in different spots. I see no serial numbers. Is there a gun book I could buy or rent from the library that I can use to identify exactly what I have? Also I doubt I could shoot any of these without replacing the o-rings. They were used frequently for hunting plus they look pretty old. I took a picture with my cell phone of all 3 guns together but I don't know if that will help. I can link that if it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC K9 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 May be able to take them up to Vances and see if they have any input. They have been wrong about things before, but it is worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRed Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Might not be a bad idea to take them to a gunsmith/shop and see what they know about them. They might be able to tell you more about them and if they are repaireable or shootable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Can anyone recommend a good gunsmith in columbus? One of the guns I can't even open. It probably hasn't been oiled in many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast5gp Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Can anyone recommend a good gunsmith in columbus? One of the guns I can't even open. It probably hasn't been oiled in many years. Gun Envy... They are very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Go to a gunsmith over a store for sure. More knowledgable about older firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer1647545514 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Gun Envy on Indianola or Survival Tactics on E. Main St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig71188 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Be sure to check them out before firing. If any of the are marked "Damascus Barrell" DO NOT FIRE them with modern ammunition. This is a typical construction on old shotguns and they very likely will come apart like a large spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc1647545523 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 One of them looks like it would be a black power shotgun. If it's authentic and from the Civil Rights era, it might have some historical value. http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r445/martyr65/Protests---Black-Power-jpg.jpg You may want to call-up a museum expert for that one: http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r445/martyr65/imagesCAMZDM06.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianZ06 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Post the link.I will give it a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger1647545502 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 The shotgun section at Gunboards is your best bet. http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?96-Shotgun-Forum-%28military-and-commercial%29& If they don't know it on gunboards, they'll point you to who does. Read all the sticky threads first...you may find what you're looking for there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 If it's authentic and from the Civil Rights era, it might have some historical value. http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r445/martyr65/Protests---Black-Power-jpg.jpg You may want to call-up a museum expert for that one: http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r445/martyr65/imagesCAMZDM06.jpg Someone as old as you would not understand how a smart phone auto corrects :gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Post the link.I will give it a shot. http://i.imgur.com/3YOei.jpg Yes it is blurry and large I can't do much editing on a cell phone. I can take better pictures from a normal camera if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc1647545523 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Someone as old as you would not understand how a smart phone auto corrects :gabe: You got me there. I admit, I have no idea how a smart phone auto corrects. In fact, I don't even understand how a smart phone works. My idea of high tech text correction is still Eaton's Corrasable Bond (ask your grandparents). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/3YOei.jpg Yes it is blurry and large I can't do much editing on a cell phone. I can take better pictures from a normal camera if needed. Take those in. That double barrel should be bank since it has the hammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1647545493 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 They are all break open guns. No they're not. The middle one looks like a Sears (Winchester made these. probably a 1400) semi auto 12ga. These are OK shotguns if it has no feeding issues. One of them looks like it would be a black power shotgun. The top gun looks like an early 1900's or late 1800's double barrel 12ga or 16ga. Maybe a J. Stevens & CO.. Kinda hard to tell with that picture. More than likely is a black powder, paper shell shotgun. DO NOT shoot modern day plastic shell rounds in this gun. The barrel cannot handle the higher pressures and WILL cause damage to the gun and/or you. There is not much of anything stamped on the barrel. So, does that mean there is something stamped on the barrels? If so, post it or pics of it. One has a company i've never heard of, What is that name? one is from sears roebuck, and they all have the gauge on them. If I take off the wooden stock under the gun and remove the barrel I see random numbers in different spots. Really need to see these. Older guns like the double barrel won't have a serial number. The bottom gun is just a single shot possibly Harrington & Richardson or a Stevens. These are still made today. Nothing special but usually reliable as gravity. Not much value in these either. Maybe $50 - $100. The Semi-auto if in good shape and no issues could be upwards around $300-$350. Now the double barrel is the hardest one to tell because the range can be from $100 to $1500. Unless it has a kick ass history from its previous owner Theodore Roosevelt, it's more than likely going to be closer to the lower end of that range. post some better pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianZ06 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I'm a little late here been working 10-12 hour days for the last two weeks but I agree with Mark. Only thing I can add now is that the auto has had some old school customizing done. Looks like some one as added a german silver inlay on the stock and a plastic pistol grip cap,also a rubber pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey2721 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 and let us know what they all are after you get them id Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVRINGS Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I have a db barrel old shot gun I want to get checked out also. I'll try to start my own thread about mine tomorrow or Monday at the latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted May 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Macro shots with a different camera. imgur was having problems when I uploaded so there might be duplicate pictures. The keystone arms co gun I can not open. Not sure why. http://imgur.com/a/HE5Wj/all#0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey2721 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 sad about the keystone one. that one would be fun to shoot at least once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger1647545502 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I think the Keystone shotty is a Stevens store brand. You may have to half-cock the hammer to open the action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark1647545493 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 It looks like the left side firing pin is stuck pushed in on the 'Keystone', this could prevent the gun from opening. I agree with Avenger, that looks a lot like a department store branded Stevens. Here's some pictures of my 1894 Stevens. http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=495&pictureid=6171 http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=495&pictureid=6170 http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=495&pictureid=6169 http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=495&pictureid=6160 http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=495&pictureid=6158 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVRINGS Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Here is mine. From what I remember it is my great grandfathers. Sorry for the crap iPhone shots, but I can get the wife's big camera if needed. http://img.tapatalk.com/4743a133-3190-d4cf.jpg http://img.tapatalk.com/4743a133-31a2-0182.jpg http://img.tapatalk.com/4743a133-31c7-eb1a.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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