Aaron Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/08/15/general-motors-is-headed-for-bankruptcy-again/ President Obama is proud of his bailout of General Motors. That's good, because, if he wins a second term, he is probably going to have to bail GM out again. The company is once again losing market share, and it seems unable to develop products that are truly competitive in the U.S. market. Right now, the federal government owns 500,000,000 shares of GM, or about 26% of the company. It would need to get about $53.00/share for these to break even on the bailout, but the stock closed at only $20.21/share on Tuesday. This left the government holding $10.1 billion worth of stock, and sitting on an unrealized loss of $16.4 billion. Right now, the government's GM stock is worth about 39% less than it was on November 17, 2010, when the company went public at $33.00/share. However, during the intervening time, the Dow Jones Industrial Average has risen by almost 20%, so GM shares have lost 49% of their value relative to the Dow. It's doubtful that the Obama administration would attempt to sell off the government's massive position in GM while the stock price is falling. It would be too embarrassing politically. Accordingly, if GM shares continue to decline, it is likely that Obama would ride the stock down to zero. GM is unlikely to hit the wall before the election, but, given current trends, the company could easily do so again before the end of a second Obama term. In the 1960s, GM averaged a 48.3% share of the U.S. car and truck market. For the first 7 months of 2012, their market share was 18.0%, down from 20.0% for the same period in 2011. With a loss of market share comes a loss of relative cost-competitiveness. There is only so much market share that GM can lose before it would no longer have the resources to attempt to recover. To help understand why GM keeps losing market share, let's look at the saga of the Chevy Malibu. The Malibu is GM's entry in the automobile market's ' D-Segment'. The D-Segment comprises mid-size, popularly priced, family sedans, like the Toyota Camry and the Honda Accord. The D-Segment accounted for 14.7% of the total U.S. vehicle market in 2011, and 21.3% during the first 7 months of 2012. Because the D-Segment is the highest volume single vehicle class in the U.S., and the U.S. is GM's home market, it is difficult to imagine how GM could survive long term unless it can profitably develop, manufacture, and market a vehicle that can hold its own in the D-Segment. This is true not only because of the revenue potential of the D-Segment, but also because of what an also-ran Malibu would say about GM's ability to execute at this time in its history. GM is in the process of introducing a totally redesigned 2013 Chevy Malibu. It will compete in the D-Segment with, among others, the following: the Ford Fusion (totally redesigned for 2013); the Honda Accord (totally redesigned for 2013); the Hyundai Sonata (totally redesigned for 2011); the Nissan Altima (totally redesigned for 2013); the Toyota Camry (refreshed for 2013); and the Volkswagen Passat (totally redesigned for 2012). Automobile technology is progressing so fast that the best vehicle in a given segment is usually just the newest design in that segment. Accordingly, if a car company comes out with a new, completely redesigned vehicle, it had better be superior to the older models being offered by its competitors. If it is not, the company will spend the next five years (the usual time between major redesigns in this segment) losing market share and/or offering costly 'incentives' to 'move the metal'. Uh-oh. At this point, it appears that the 2013 Malibu is not only inferior to the 2012 Volkswagen Passat, it's not even as good as the car it replaces, the 2012 Chevy Malibu. If you follow the automobile enthusiast press, you know that, under the leadership of then product czar Bob Lutz, GM went all out to develop a competitive D-Segment car for the 2008 model year. The result was the 2008 Chevy Malibu, which managed to get itself named by Car and Driver magazine as one of the '10 Best Cars' for 2008. However, when tested head to head against six other D-Segment sedans in the March 2008 issue of Car and Driver, the 2008 Malibu came in third, behind the Honda Accord and the Nissan Altima. Adjusted to the points scale that Car and Driver uses today, the 2008 Malibu scored 187 points, 6% lower than the winning 2008 Honda Accord's 198 points. Still, third was a respectable showing. The previous generation of the Malibu, a darling of rental car fleets, would have come in dead last in any D-Segment comparison test. Acknowledging the importance of the D-Segment to the company' s future, GM's CEO, Dan Akerson, ordered that the introduction of the redesigned 2013 Chevy Malibu be advanced by six months, from the fall of 2012 to the spring of 2012. In their March 2012 issue, Car and Driver published another D-Segment comparison test, pitting the 2013 Chevy Malibu Eco against five competing vehicles. This time, the Malibu came in dead last. Not only was the 2013 Malibu (183 points) crushed by the winning 2012 Volkswagen Passat (211 points), it was soundly beaten by the 2012 Honda Accord (198 points), a 5-model-year-old design due for replacement this fall. Worst of all, the 2013 Malibu scored (and placed) lower than the 2008 Malibu would have in the same test. Uh-oh. Digging deeper, the picture just gets worse. Despite its mild hybrid powertrain, which is intended to provide superior fuel economy (at the cost of a higher purchase price and reduced trunk space), the 2013 Malibu Eco delivered the same 26 MPG in Car and Driver's comparison test as the Passat, the Accord, and the Toyota Camry. In a recent speech, Dan Akerson admitted that GM's powertrain technology had fallen behind that of competitors in some cases. This is illustrated by the Malibu Eco's EPA gas mileage ratings. At 25 MPG City/37 MPG Highway, the Malibu Eco is not as fuel-efficient as the conventionally-powered 2013 Nissan Altima (27 MPG City/38 MPG Highway). It might be possible for GM to give the Malibu a better powertrain during its five-year-product life cycle. Unfortunately, there is no way that they will be able to correct its biggest design flaw, which is its short wheelbase. For years, automobile companies have been trying to design cars with the longest possible wheelbase (distance between the front and rear axles) for a given overall vehicle length. A longer wheelbase provides advantages in the areas of styling, ride, and legroom. In developing the 2013 Malibu, GM decided to shorten the wheelbase by 4.5 inches from that of the previous-generation Malibu, from 112.3 inches to 107.5 inches. This gave the 2013 Malibu the shortest wheelbase in the entire D-Segment. The Car and Driver comparison-test-winning Passat has a wheelbase of 110.4 inches, which gives it a 'unique selling proposition', the roomiest back seat in the D-Segment. The Passat has combined front and rear legroom totaling 81.5 inches, 3.5 inches more than the Malibu. This may not sound like a lot, but, like baseball, automobile design is 'a game of inches'. For a 6'1' tall man, sitting in the back seat of the 2012 Passat behind a similar-sized driver is like sitting in a limo. His knees will be nowhere near the back of the front seat. In contrast, the same sized man would have to struggle to get into the back seat of the 2013 Malibu, and would have to sit with his legs splayed once he did. Rear seat legroom is important in the family sedan market, not only for the comfort of adult passengers, but also for the ease of using children's car seats. The 2013 Nissan Altima also has longer wheelbase and more rear seat legroom than does the Malibu. Chevrolet is not a premium brand, like Mercedes or BMW. Since the 1920s, Chevy's essential market positioning has been ' more car for your money'. Unfortunately, the 2012 Volkswagen Passat is more car for the money than is the 2013 Malibu. There will not be anything that GM will be able to do about this for the next five years other than to reduce the price of the Malibu by offering 'incentives'. This will eat into the company' s profitability, which is already weak. As a company, General Motors peaked in 1965, when it commanded 50.7% of the U.S. market, and made a stunning-for-the-time $2.1 billion dollars in after-tax profits. Adjusted by the GDP deflator to 2011 dollars, GM made $12.1 billion in after-tax profits on $117.9 billion in revenue. In 1965, Volkswagen was tiny compared to GM. It produced only 1.6 million vehicles, about 22% of GM's 7.3 million. VW's total revenues were only 11% of GM's. The most powerful engine you could get in VW's volume family car, the Beetle, had 40 horsepower. The biggest engine you could get in GM's equivalent, the 1965 Chevy Impala, had 425 horsepower. In the first half of 2012, Volkswagen sold almost as many vehicles as GM did, 4.6 million vs. 4.7 million. And, its total revenues were much higher, $119.2 billion vs. $75.4 billion for GM. Part of this is the result of currency exchange rates, but VW had a significantly higher operating profit margin than GM, 6.8% vs. 5.7%. Under the leadership of Ferdinand Piech, who is kind of like a German-speaking, automobile industry version of Steve Jobs, Volkswagen is determined to become the biggest and most profitable car company in the world. And, right now, they are eating GM's lunch. Not only has Volkswagen taken an important share of the U.S. D-Segment with their new Passat, but they are pulling away from everyone in the troubled European market, where GM is losing money on its Opel subsidiary. The headline in the current edition of Automotive New Europe's 'Global Monthly' is, ' Buried: VW Uses Europe's Crisis to Crush Rivals'. In this case, GM is one of the 'crushees'. Will GM be able to turn itself around, and save American taxpayers from losing $26.5 billion on Obama's bailout? One way to answer that question is to compare the 2013 Chevy Malibu against the 2012 Volkswagen Passat, as Car and Driver did. Results: VW, first out of six; GM, dead last. However, additional insight can be obtained by looking at how GM's CEO, Dan Akerson (63), stacks up against Professor Doctor Martin Winterkorn (65), the man handpicked by Ferdinand Piech in 2007 to be his replacement as CEO of Volkswagen AG. Akerson has an engineering degree, but he also has a Master's Degree in Economics, and his first big job was as CFO of MCI. Akerson was CEO of General Instrument, and then of Nextel, and then of XO Communications, which went bankrupt in June 2002. He joined the private equity firm, the Carlyle Group, in 2003. Akerson got his first job in the automobile industry when he was named CEO of GM in late 2010. Recently, he has been hiring and firing top GM executives at an alarming pace, and he is understood to be working on a major reorganization of the company. Akerson recently gave a televised speech to GM employees on the need for 'integrity'. Martin Winterkorn has a PhD in Metallurgical Engineering, and he has spent his entire career in the automotive industry. At the 2011 Frankfurt Auto Show, Winterkorn was caught on amateur video sitting in, and studying Hyundai's newly introduced i30, a competitor to VW's best-selling family car, the Golf. Here is an excerpt from a story about this incident published along with the video by The Truth About Cars, an auto industry blog: '(Martin Winterkorn) pulled on the adjuster of the steering column, and heard - nothing. At Volkswagen, there is an audible ('klonk!) feedback whenever the steering column is adjusted. Immediately, Klaus Bischoff, head of Volkswagen Brand Design was summoned. He pulled on the adjuster: No sound. 'Da scheppert nix,' exclaimed Winterkorn in his heavy Bavarian accent. 'There is no rattle!' Winterkorn was livid: 'How did he pull that off?' He, the blasted Korean. 'BMW doesn't know how. We don't know how.' He, the blasted Korean, must have found out how to battle the dreaded Scheppern. Tension is high. This could affect careers. Someone quickly explains that there had been a solution, 'but it was too expensive.' That gets Winterkorn even more enraged. 'Then, why does he know how?' For less money. He, the Korean. There is no answer. Hyundai has beaten Volkswagen at the Scheppern front. Winterkorn measures the A-pillar, runs his hands over the plastic. He walks away, his entourage trots after him. Deeply in thought and very worried.' Uh-oh. While Dan Akerson is busy rearranging the deck chairs on GM's Titanic, Martin Winterkorn is leading VW to world domination via technical excellence. 'The game isn't over until it's over', but if President Obama wins reelection, he should probably start giving some serious thought to how he is going to justify bailing out GM, and its unionized UAW workforce, yet again. And, during the current campaign, Obama might want to be a little more modest about what he actually achieved by bailing out GM the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 GM :dumb: Obama :dumb: Malibu :dumb: Hybrids :dumb: Volkswagen :fuckyeah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 The whole irony is the link between GM and VW from the legal battle they had in the late 90's http://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/09/business/gm-files-a-lawsuit-against-vw-and-some-executives.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Remind me why we bailed them out the first time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted August 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Remind me why we bailed them out the first time? Too big to fail bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 If they suck at what they do, let them die while the others continue to prosper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 As long as the keep building truck with the duramax's they can fail for all i care! They should actually just keep GMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacfreak142 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Idk, i cant see it actually happening. Major overhaul in very short amount of time, yes ( by this i dont just mean dropping another non profiting brand). Aside from that joke of a car (malibu eco) GM has been coming out with some pretty nice stuff. The thing i just dont understand is, a big part of the awnser to making their vehicles competetive, is right in front of there faces, and that is...weight. they know this, but yet really do nothing about it. I mean its a well known fact that when you cut weight, the car performs better all around, as well as increased fuel efficiency. Hell id be willing to bet they could have taken the malibu, put their new 2.5l in it with 200 hp, and just kept the ammenities to a minimum to save weight, and they would have a car that would easily out perform the eco, all while getting the same mileage if not better and would save money all the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Full of fail and aids. They should just make the vette and trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Thank you everybody for paying your taxes and supplementing the building of my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 LSX LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacfreak142 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) ..... Edited August 16, 2012 by pontiacfreak142 double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKilbourne Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 So, here's a thought. A good deal of GM's sales were in China over the past year or so. China's ecomony is f'd right now. Bad for GM. Obama is still trying to claim a win for this when it cost some absurb amount of money to save each job. I think I read somewhere that north of 500K spent for each job along the supply chain to "save" GM. Spend too much money to make no money, oh wait....that's not how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Since when did C and D results predict market success or failure? Read the review, it basically said they are all great cars separated by dings here and there. Joe Public is not going to decide not to buy the Chevy because C and D rated it lower than the others. For the record I would not buy one (or any of the other 5). I would however drive a GM truck, corvette, or Cadillac CTS (preferably a v)... That's about it. There is nothing in Toyotas or Hondas line up that even remotely interests me. I still don't think any of the companies should have been bailed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS_Sonoma Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Since when did C and D results predict market success or failure? Read the review, it basically said they are all great cars separated by dings here and there. Joe Public is not going to decide not to buy the Chevy because C and D rated it lower than the others. For the record I would not buy one (or any of the other 5). I would however drive a GM truck, corvette, or Cadillac CTS (preferably a v)... That's about it. There is nothing in Toyotas or Hondas line up that even remotely interests me. I still don't think any of the companies should have been bailed out. Give me a Passat for a D class runner. But I prefer the vehicles you have chosen as well. I'll be honest, after owning several GM products, the VW fit, finish and technology advancements of my TDi Jetta puts GM to shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 ....given current trends, the company could easily do so again before the end of a second Obama term. http://www.spaceg.com/multimedia/collection/ASCII%20art/lollercoaster0.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1647545492 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Does GM still subsidize their employees healthcare benefits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 This article is a joke, and I don't understand why the American press loves to blast one of the largest American company's around. You want to compare market share numbers from the 1960's to today? You want to make a blanket statement saying the GM is incapable of producing competitive products, but ignore the ATS, CTS, LaCrosse, Verano, Regal, Cruze, Equinox, Camaro, and Corvette (and maybe more I'm forgetting)? You want to use the Malibu Eco model, which was rushed to market almost a full model year ahead of the rest of the Malibu line-up and the benchmark of what all the sales potential is for this model? This article is a joke. The Cruze is a success, worldwide. The ATS is critically acclaimed. China is GM's larget market, and still growing at a good rate (just not as fast as it was). GM has posted large profits in almost ever quarter since bankruptcy. The stock price is being held down by the large government holding. But according to this guy the company is on the verge of failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 If they suck at what they do, let them die while the others continue to prosper. Amen! We shouldn't fix your stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmrmnhrm Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Remind me why we bailed them out the first time? Cause if GM goes down, an assload of parts suppliers get taken out with them, and when those suppliers go under, they'll take Ford and Chrysler-Fiat with them, which will fuck over more suppliers, which then put a major hurt on Honda and Toyota, which while "Japanese" employ a shitload of people in factories here in the States as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 As long as the keep building truck with the duramax's they can fail for all i care! They should actually just keep GMC. The Duramax came from Isuzu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 404 fucks not found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Cause if GM goes down, an assload of parts suppliers get taken out with them, and when those suppliers go under, they'll take Ford and Chrysler-Fiat with them, which will fuck over more suppliers, which then put a major hurt on Honda and Toyota, which while "Japanese" employ a shitload of people in factories here in the States as well. So what you are saying is that if GM were to suddenly be out of the picture, the people that would have gone out and bought a brand new GM are instead going to not buy anything at all? These people wouldn't go spend their money on one of the other surviving companies, therefore causing them to expand to make up the difference, therefore bringing in a large share of the displaced workers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 ^ sure thats a possibility, however what if the ones that were going to buy gm decided to buy forign after gm goes under? then less of the workers are likely to be absorbed by us auto makers. which still leaves the parts suppliers, they would still face a real possibility of going under too if they arent producing enough to make a profit. either way its unlikely that all the would be gm buyers would buy forign after the loss of gm, same could be said the other way around as well though too. imho i think all of the domestic car makers need to make more fun to drive cars that the average working man can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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