iwishiwascool Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Oh, if for no other reason, Obama needs to be voted out because he would take with him Eric Holder and Ben Bernanke. They need to go worse than he does. Right, since Republican and Bush appointee of the independent Federal Reserve ,Ben Bernankie's, term doesn't end until 2013. What tools do you think the Fed should (or should not) be exercising that they aren't (or are) already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1badgta Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Right, since Republican and Bush appointee of the independent Federal Reserve ,Ben Bernankie's, term doesn't end until 2013. What tools do you think the Fed should (or should not) be exercising that they aren't (or are) already They needed to let the economy do what it does... GM should of been allowed to declare bankruptcy and the banks too.. if you bail them out they dont learn and do the same mistakes. GM would of come out of bankruptcy stronger and leaner and with something to prove. the free market system will have ups and downs but more ups than downs. let the market be the market. someone drives their company into the ground will have a hard time being CEO again. Like football players who have bad seasons are not traded well.. etc. movie stars who make crap dont get good offers.. etc.. its the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 So since the TARP was passed by GW, why did the GOP not pursue their free market principals back then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1badgta Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 So since the TARP was passed by GW, why did the GOP not pursue their free market principals back then? Because Bush is a statist and not a pure conservative. He also buckeled under pressure from bernanke and obama team who was a fixin to get in soon. GB said Bush: ‘I’ve Abandoned Free Market Principles To Save The Free Market System’ nice.. Keep in mind I think some regulation can be good.. some bad.. but you dont fiddle with it:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Ahhh, big-government conservatives, war-mongering liberals, these guys are so similar it's mind bending that this is being called a choice. Hey, why not vote for the gun-stealing, social healthcare espousing republican, instead of the gun-stealing, social healthcare espousing democrat. Heritage Foundation think tank did what? Noooo, Obama is a socialist, non-citizen, muslim who simultaneously has a Christian pastor I dislike. Good business man? Didn't seem to matter much whenever WB was running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStowers023 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Does anyone know if Romney is also including Disabled Vetrans and Vetrans using the G.I. Bill as the 47% of Americans that rely on Government Aid? And if so, is he planning on taking that away or reducing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Does anyone know if Romney is also including Disabled Vetrans and Vetrans using the G.I. Bill as the 47% of Americans that rely on Government Aid? And if so, is he planning on taking that away or reducing it? Yes, that is included in the actual 46.2%. I think he was conflating a number of different statistics that are individually accurate outside of his reference, which was not. No, it would be political suicide for Democrats or Republicans to put forward such a bill to reduce it. Congress would have to approve it after all. I'm 97% sure that could not be addressed via executive order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Does anyone know if Romney is also including Disabled Vetrans and Vetrans using the G.I. Bill as the 47% of Americans that rely on Government Aid? And if so, is he planning on taking that away or reducing it? I don't think so. He's always stood by the fact that Obama is the one who has let down the Vets. I'm in the insurance/medical arena and one thing he has going for him and our doctors in the VA area is he supports not raising the Tricare Medical insurance fees. When he was in VA recently he ripped into the Vet. Admin. for taking so damn long for claims to be processed. He also supports the fact if the VA couldn't see vets in a timely fashion they could seek care outside the VA and have their bills covered. Our Tricare providers were elated by this as they know the VA is dragging it's feet. He also supports in-state tuition rates for vets using the GI bill for education regardless of their residency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStowers023 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Yes, that is included in the actual 46.2%. I think he was conflating a number of different statistics that are individually accurate outside of his reference, which was not. No, it would be political suicide for Democrats or Republicans to put forward such a bill to reduce it. Congress would have to approve it after all. I'm 97% sure that could not be addressed via executive order. I don't think so. He's always stood by the fact that Obama is the one who has let down the Vets. I'm in the insurance/medical arena and one thing he has going for him and our doctors in the VA area is he supports not raising the Tricare Medical insurance fees. When he was in VA recently he ripped into the Vet. Admin. for taking so damn long for claims to be processed. He also supports the fact if the VA couldn't see vets in a timely fashion they could seek care outside the VA and have their bills covered. Our Tricare providers were elated by this as they know the VA is dragging it's feet. He also supports in-state tuition rates for vets using the GI bill for education regardless of their residency. Thanks guys, I just wanted to get that clear. Those policies effect me quite a bit lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Does anyone know if Romney is also including Disabled Vetrans and Vetrans using the G.I. Bill as the 47% of Americans that rely on Government Aid? And if so, is he planning on taking that away or reducing it? You should read the link I posted on page 2. http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/edsall-the-ryan-sinkhole/?smid=tw-share I still have not seen anything to refute this. If anyone care to post some facts that discredit this, be my guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Right, since Republican and Bush appointee of the independent Federal Reserve ,Ben Bernankie's, term doesn't end until 2013. What tools do you think the Fed should (or should not) be exercising that they aren't (or are) already 2013 is coming up soon Quantative Easing failed horribly the first time, so they tried it again. It failed even worse, so they tried it a third time. So far, its had zero impact on anything. I guess they could start by not dumping money into the economy, causing the dollar to plummet, which makes imports like oil and therefore gas to cost us more. I understand the idea is to make our exports cheaper and therefore more in demand, but the unemployment rate hasn't budged, showing that in the long run its only made things worse. http://www.cnbc.com/id/49274085 He's also arguing that Congress shouldn't pass a law that allows them to monitor their meetings. Should the people of the country explicitly not be allowed to know what the Fed is trying to do to our economy? Should they be allowed to do as they please with no oversight from anyone? Nobody in the Fed is voted in, yet they are able to play politics at will and have control over every financial institution in the country. And when they screw up, there's nothing anyone can do about it. Romney has already said that if he's elected, Bernanke is gone so of course Bernanke is going to do whatever is in his power to keep Obama in office. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bernanke-makes-strong-defense-fed-163121564.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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