Exodus Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57565730-1/unauthorized-unlocking-of-smartphones-becomes-illegal-saturday/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 well that is horse shit, and i bet there will be a way around it before it actually gets pushed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OgReNaToR Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 there is a petition that was started this morning http://www.phonearena.com/news/White-House-petition-started-to-make-unlocking-phones-legal_id39085 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Complete horseshit...petition signed. I'll continue only buying unlocked phones, and boycott asshole carriers like Verizon who try to keep everything on lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli1647545497 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Defy the Man! What really makes this bullshit is that it remains in effect even after the phone is bought and paid for and the full contract has expired (Which is a sum total more than the full list price of any phone). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Prisoner 1: What're you in here for? Prisoner 2: Felonious assault. You? Prisoner 1: Jailbreaking my iPhone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 I read another article that was much more in-depth. I believe that some phones are sold unlocked even if the carrier has the option to lock it (iPhone 5 on Verizon was cited as an example). Also, I believe this only applies to phones sold at the insanely discounted prices when you sign a contract. So if you were to go in and pay full retail price without signing a new contract, your phone is unlocked. Additionally, contrary to what was posted by Mowgli, the other thing I read said that after the contract is up they will unlock it for you, though you still can't do it yourself. Again, this was all just what I read through another source. When the company is so heavily subsidizing your price, I can understand them not wanting to you unlock the phone to access a bunch of shit they'd rather monetize. Pay full retail, get what you want, simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 That explains why VZW pushed that update to my Note the other day. FU, Verizon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 That explains why VZW pushed that update to my Note the other day. FU, Verizon! PS: get the jellybeans ROM from xda. Best of both worlds without losing spen fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 PS: get the jellybeans ROM from xda. Best of both worlds without losing spen fun. I'm rooted and unlocked using CASUAL. Then I deleted SDM 1.0, so they cannot get to my phone. Fuck em. Speaking of S-Pen....Download "Button Savior". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 We will see how long this shit lasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFo Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Just another reason to buy a Jitterbug. Love mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Just another reason to buy a Jitterbug. Love mine. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli1647545497 Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 ... after the contract is up they will unlock it for you, though you still can't do it yourself. I will believe that when I see it. I know of no carrier anywhere who currently does this, much less even maintains the technical expertise in their employee base to even offer it. I do not see them suddenly ramping up on the capability to do so across their myriad sales and support channels. I would sooner expect monkeys to fly out of my ass. But yes in fact according to the wording of the legislation the restriction on unlocking does remain in effect even after the initial contract expires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 This is more geared toward carrier locking aka the locking of phones to prevent carrier changing.IE: In the GSM World. Us VRZ people don't really have that option per say, and I'm sure we'll all continue to do what we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 felt this song fit here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 the buster finally contributes something awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 All its saying is if you get a discounted price with a contract you cant unlock it yourself and activate it with another carrier. Like Jones said, Verizon is still on cdma for a while so they are less likely to even see any locked phones issues. T-Mobile and ATT will see it more often as they both sell GSM phones. Its not saying you cant have your unlocked phones Chris. However, if you chose to get a locked (discounted) phone the carrier doesnt have to let you activate it on another companies network. A lot of it is tied to the contracts and expecting so much money back over the 2 years to pay for the discount given. Most people wont even be impacted because when people jump ship they usually use it as an opportunity to buy a new phone anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I will believe that when I see it. I know of no carrier anywhere who currently does this, much less even maintains the technical expertise in their employee base to even offer it. I do not see them suddenly ramping up on the capability to do so across their myriad sales and support channels. I would sooner expect monkeys to fly out of my ass. But yes in fact according to the wording of the legislation the restriction on unlocking does remain in effect even after the initial contract expires. Unlocking can be done through customer service. Typically its done for customers that want to activate their phones with a different carrier when they travel over seas. Helps them save a lot of money as they pay local rates instead of roaming rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 That explains why VZW pushed that update to my Note the other day. FU, Verizon! Samsung is trying to fix the exynos exploit before people start making apps that could wipe your data or brick your phone. I think mobile wallet was in that update too. Im also pretty sure it did take out one way to root the phone because it was linked to that.. but you can still root it other ways. Heres some quick info on it exynos exploit... http://tech2.in.com/news/smartphones/samsung-gives-official-statement-on-exynos-exploit-working-on-fix/655602 Carriers could care less if you root smart phones these days because it was made legal back in like October. Computer programs that enable wireless telephone handsets to execute lawfully obtained software applications, where circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of enabling interoperability of such applications with computer programs on the telephone handset. Customers like being able to do it so companies sell phones that do it. The manufacturers on the other hand still say it voids your warranty. 3x and I'm out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 AT&T unlocked my iPhone 4 once it was out of contract. Took a 5 minute phone call and an update via iTunes. Super easy. I will believe that when I see it. I know of no carrier anywhere who currently does this, much less even maintains the technical expertise in their employee base to even offer it. I do not see them suddenly ramping up on the capability to do so across their myriad sales and support channels. I would sooner expect monkeys to fly out of my ass. But yes in fact according to the wording of the legislation the restriction on unlocking does remain in effect even after the initial contract expires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli1647545497 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Unlocking can be done through customer service. Typically its done for customers that want to activate their phones with a different carrier when they travel over seas. Helps them save a lot of money as they pay local rates instead of roaming rates. Called Verizon retail locations in Dublin, Tuttle area, Grandview, Upper Arlington, and Hilliard. As well as the micro stores in Best Buy and the Tuttle mall. None offer it, know how to do it ("officially" - a couple of the counter kids said they did) or even think their parent company allows it. two store managers also chimed in with a wtf? Luckily I root my own shit, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Called Verizon retail locations in Dublin, Tuttle area, Grandview, Upper Arlington, and Hilliard. As well as the micro stores in Best Buy and the Tuttle mall. None offer it, know how to do it ("officially" - a couple of the counter kids said they did) or even think their parent company allows it. two store managers also chimed in with a wtf? Luckily I root my own shit, but still. Oh, I think you are mixing up rooting with unlocking? If so the employees are not allowed to help you root because it voids the warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGoKart Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Rooting and jailbreaking is definitely different than unlocking. And as to the whole govt. putting their hands in this, well, hellooooo socialism!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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