Ramsey Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 My brother just bought one new and he and my cousin shot it. They said it was very unpredictable and didnt seem to group at all. They are both very beginner shooters but were shooting a 1911 also and that seemed dead on. They were talking distances of like 20 feet and changes of 6-8 inches. They shot about 200 rounds out of the m&p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan9381 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 User error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Rarely is it the gun, but the shooter. I'm assuming stance, grip and sight picture are to blame for the spread of rounds. Overall, it's a spot on pistol, but not 1911 accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Rarely is it the gun, but the shooter. I'm assuming stance, grip and sight picture are to blame for the spread of rounds. Overall, it's a spot on pistol, but not 1911 accuracy. Is there a break-in period on the gun that would effect how it shoots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 When I first got my m&p 9c, I swore the sights were off because I was shooting down and left. I did some google searches and it turns out it was user error. Knowing this, I corrected my trigger pull technique, which corrected the down part, leaving me shooting left at about 7" groupings. After Joe's CCW class, I pulled the groupings in about 2 or 3 inches, so that I am grouping about 4" with it. It's still a bit left of center, 3" left, 1" right, but I'm getting there. User error, practice, and instruction and they will both love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 When I first got my m&p 9c, I swore the sights were off because I was shooting down and left. I did some google searches and it turns out it was user error. Knowing this, I corrected my trigger pull technique, which corrected the down part, leaving me shooting left at about 7" groupings. After Joe's CCW class, I pulled the groupings in about 2 or 3 inches, so that I am grouping about 4" with it. It's still a bit left of center, 3" left, 1" right, but I'm getting there. User error, practice, and instruction and they will both love it. Thats what i was kind of thinking. But when i googled it, there were threads saying the guns had issues. They both will soon be taking Joes class. Sounds like i might need just range lesson or two from Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'll give them tree fiddy cash tonight :gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRed05 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 First time I shot my 9c it was the same thing. Didn't take long to get the hang of it though, I was used to a bigger pistol (P95). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangsn95gt Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 The stock triggers suck dick on them too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macpyro2 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 The stock triggers suck dick on them too This. I just bought a new m&p 9 a few weeks ago. Trigger job in the works for sure. You can ask Mahle how shitty I shot at the range with this gun the first time taking it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/nhjsg/TriggerPullMistakes.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 1911 trigger > m&p trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Apex kit for sure. Survival tactics had some in stock a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRAntwon Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Some guns just arent as fool proof as Glocks are to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast5gp Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 User error yup.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dover Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Some guns just arent as fool proof as Glocks are to shoot. Glocks are a far cry from fool proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Some guns just arent as fool proof as Glocks are to shoot. I love glocks but this comment is potato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 zero issues with my M&P, just user error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dover Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 zero issues with my M&P, just user error. My Shield shot on point when I had it. But like many have said, the triggers are garbage and really need that Apex kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangsn95gt Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Yup, definitely user error, as much as I hate the M&P trigger once I figured out point of aim/point of impact I shot macpyros fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyM3rC Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 M&P9s are hit and miss. I'm pretty sure only the M&P9 Full size models are affected, but yeah- some of them don't group at all. Most will group much better with either light or heavy bullets- mine likes 124gr+ better than lighter bullets but still is one of the least accurate pistols I've ever owned. You can google it, but S&W jacked up the timing on the unlocking of the barrel. Last I checked into it it affected about 1 in 4, but generally the M&P9fs is very inaccurate. You can get an aftermarket barrel and it will fix anything. Have fun spending $200 to get your $500 pistol to shoot as well as it should from the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I love and carry my M&P 9c, but it is far from the most accurate pistol in the safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 My M&P 45 had a trigger break in period that was pretty obvious. I'm not even an expert on hand guns, but it felt like it had sand in the mechanism for about 200 rounds then it cleared up very nicely. I read this was normal on the M&P line and have never bothered with a trigger job or anything, just normal cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I have probably 750 rounds through my 9c without a single cleaning, and haven't had any issues at all. I stated above about the learning curve with this gun, but overall, its very consistent, and easy to shoot. once I get 1000 rounds through it, it'll get a full, detailed cleaning, and then relegated to CCW status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammit Charlie Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I have a trigger job on my fullsize M&P, and a little over 4,500 rounds through it. No problems here. Just slow down, concentrate on your front sight and apply pressure slowly. Remember to breath, to many people hold thier breath in anticipation. While taking my time I can get 2.5-2.75" groups at 20'. Range time is key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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