Draco-REX Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 but then.. Tease video: In-car (ish): It's not going to make huge numbers, but it should have instant response and a table-top torque curve. So not "Mega-BRZ" but more like BRZ+ (or as some would say, "BRZ [FIXED]".) There's no official numbers yet (saving them for some announcement in a couple weeks) but it's looking like an additional 60hp or so on an otherwise stock car. I'm thinking 300+ crank hp is possible with a good set of headers if I'm lucky, E85 should put it over the top if not. And it sounds f'n cool. I'm very tempted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 You're to the BRZ Modding crowd what Clay is to car shopping crowd. Pull the trigger already man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted March 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 You're to the BRZ Modding crowd what Clay is to car shopping crowd. Pull the trigger already man! It's not available yet... And neither is the header I want to get... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanB Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Supercharged BRZ sounds like one heck of a fun car, go for it once it's available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 TwinScrew + SubySound is an amazing combination. Can't wait to see someone put 2.0l+ twin screw on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'll take "Things I could buy with the price of a BRZ+supercharger" for $100 Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted March 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 TwinScrew + SubySound is an amazing combination. Can't wait to see someone put 2.0l+ twin screw on one. A 2.0L twin? Isn't there some law of physics against running a SC that's as big or bigger than the original engine's displacement? lol. I don't think there will be much demand for big blowers. I think most people looking for big power on this car will go turbo and work around the loss of transitional response. Though it does make me wonder if the 335 is a direct swap for the 210 that comes with the kit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 9 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Detonate.com That is all!! Fp green and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted March 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Detonate.com That is all!! Fp green and call it a day. FP can go eat a bag of dicks and die. Besides, I don't want a turbo on this. No matter how good they are, a turbo never has the transitional response of NA. A supercharger comes close, with a twin-screw like the above having the best respose of the FI options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigOxley Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Y u no vortech? They are being produced now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I also plan on going the SC route after a couple years of worry-free warranty driving. Let the tuners and experimenters work out the bugs. Take me for a drive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 9 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 FP can go eat a bag of dicks and die. Besides, I don't want a turbo on this. No matter how good they are, a turbo never has the transitional response of NA. A supercharger comes close, with a twin-screw like the above having the best respose of the FI options. Is there an ic with the twin screw setup? With the Subaru boxer engine love to spit oil thru the PVC system and forced hot air this will be a disaster combination, but since you already owned couple Subarus you should know what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 less talk, more chops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourString Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I would drive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC K9 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 FP can go eat a bag of dicks and die. Why so much hate for FP? Don't get me wrong, I'm not an FP nutswinger, I just run one of "their" turbo's because I got a great deal on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byhi Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'd rock it. But I'm not sure if I would purchase it and install it. But if it was given to me then o hell yes! Superchargers are fun but I can see this easily turning into the age old debate of Turbo vs SC. It always comes down to many cylinders want SC and lesser cylinders want Turbos. Or at least the people that drive them. But on that note, SC on a torquey suby box? That's a damn good combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted March 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Y u no vortech? They are being produced now. A few reasons. Better low end which is good for AutoX. I don't really like the tight bends the Vortec kit uses. Also I think the Vortec's A2A system is vented to atmosphere which seems like it would be detrimental to transitional response, but I'll have to look at it again to be sure. And frankly, the twin screw just looks cooler. I also plan on going the SC route after a couple years of worry-free warranty driving. Let the tuners and experimenters work out the bugs. Take me for a drive though. I'm always happy to give rides. As for reliability, I was worried at first, but seeing how those 500+hp builds are doing on the stock internals has improved my confidence in this engine. Is there an ic with the twin screw setup? With the Subaru boxer engine love to spit oil thru the PVC system and forced hot air this will be a disaster combination, but since you already owned couple Subarus you should know what to do. The Stage 2 version uses an A2W intercooler. It's mounted under the charger and vents into the runners. You can see the cooling lines in the teaser vid. The picture is of the Stage 1 version. As for the blow-by, an air/oil seperator is on my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Is there an ic with the twin screw setup? With the Subaru boxer engine love to spit oil thru the PVC system and forced hot air this will be a disaster combination, but since you already owned couple Subarus you should know what to do. Innovate is saying it will have an IC on it. A twin screw traditionally runs cooler than most other forced inductions setups anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted March 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 less talk, more chops I need to run some questions by the US tuner who's working on the kit once he's no longer under a NDA. But depending on availability, this could be a pretty quick turnaround. Why so much hate for FP? Don't get me wrong, I'm not an FP nutswinger, I just run one of "their" turbo's because I got a great deal on it... Because the owner of FP essentially took a big shit on the Subaru community in a post on the Evo forums. I understand if someone doesn't like some of their customers, I think everyone that works at this level has customers they don't like. But you don't go on a public forum and ridicule a significant portion of your customer base. He really showed his true colors in that discussion and so I refuse to give him any of my money or use any of his parts on my car. I'd feel the same way if I drove an Evo too. I'd rock it. But I'm not sure if I would purchase it and install it. But if it was given to me then o hell yes! Superchargers are fun but I can see this easily turning into the age old debate of Turbo vs SC. It always comes down to many cylinders want SC and lesser cylinders want Turbos. Or at least the people that drive them. But on that note, SC on a torquey suby box? That's a damn good combo. It should be pretty fun. I'm trying to maintain the feel of the original car with quick response and excellent communication to the driver. So I don't think a turbo's nature lends itself well to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 This will be a cool option once I can buy a used FRS for less than $10K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye1647545503 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Sounds fun! but the pics of ls swap I saw looks better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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