jjjxlr8 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Looks like the price of US military firearms just went up! I suspect other imports will be targeted next if they aren't already. Then surplus ammo... We just can't have all these criminals and gang bangers toting around M1 Garands, with their high capacity 8 round clips! :dumb: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/obamas-ban-on-surplus-relics-reveals-his-anti-gun-extremism-says-ccrkba-221679761.html http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/29/obama-announces-new-gun-control-measures-targets-military-surplus-imports/ http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20130829/ap-exclusive-obama-offers-new-gun-control-steps-curbs-on-importing-military-surplus-weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn89 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Does he get the vote for the most retarded president in the history of america? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 He's also going after the Trust, LLC routes to NFA goodness. Because we have such a problem with those types of weapons... This guy's a fucking idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Does he get the vote for the most retarded president in the history of america? He's trying desperately to be remembered for more than just being America's first black president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 He's also going after the Trust, LLC routes to NFA goodness. Because we have such a problem with those types of weapons... This guy's a fucking idiot. It really makes no sense. You better believe that the BATFE is checking the backgrounds of all persons listed on the trust. Maybe this one is just to appease his supporters without actually doing anything at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewhop Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 This guy's a fucking idiot. ^^^^ this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey2721 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 i pray it may get reversed by a future non-idiot president with some pressure from the nra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 This isn't new information... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackbar00 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Obama is not the true fuckup. The American people as a whole are for voting him in..... TWICE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 WTF :\ I just read the below fact sheet and I'm still confused. I understand part of it. They are trying to prevent certain types of guns from being imported. But at the same time I think there should be an exemption for classical weapons. The whole Trust thing has always bothered me. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/08/29/fact-sheet-new-executive-actions-reduce-gun-violence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustlestiltskin Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Time to stock up on mosin ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Time to stock up on mosin ammo Time to stock up on everything. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 WTF :\ I just read the below fact sheet and I'm still confused. I understand part of it. They are trying to prevent certain types of guns from being imported. But at the same time I think there should be an exemption for classical weapons. The whole Trust thing has always bothered me. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/08/29/fact-sheet-new-executive-actions-reduce-gun-violence The only shit that the executive branch can regulate without Congress is stuff they already have legislation backing. In order for a weapon to be imported, it has to be considered a sporting firearm. The ATF decides what is and isn't a sporting firearm. This is why we don't have any imported handguns in .380 (like the Glock) and why Saiga's are imported without a pistol grip. All pistol grip AK's in the country and either built domestically from imported parts kits, or built domestically with new parts. So they can decide that all of those Garands that South Korea is trying to dump aren't "sporting" guns, and refuse to allow them in country. This battle started waaay back in Obama's first term, and to my knowledge doesn't affect anything other than the (American built) Garands being imported back. Trusts are used primarily for people that live in places where their chief LEO refuses to sign off on class 3 items. The NFA gives the ATF leeway in deciding the rules on how people can acquire that stuff, so they are capable of changing the rules (but not preventing people from getting them). I would assume that the ATF is still doing background checks on the people that put their name on them. There are other reasons for using trusts, but that's the big one. Supposedly in return for requiring checks on people in the trust, they are totally eliminating the CLEO sign off. In all honesty, that trade off would make it way easier all around and there would be little need to do a trust, aside from other issues like multiple people having access or in order to pass the weapon down in a will. Truth is, it's just them tooting their horns over nothing. They are preventing what would be big heavy antiquated, and probably not cheap, rifles from hitting the market for collectors, and making it no harder for law abiding citizens to get SBRs and suppressors seeing how no criminal would ever bother paying for the $200 tax stamp, fill out the paperwork and wait 6 months to cut the end of the barrel off their shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Time to stock up on everything. FTFY Time to stock up on mosin ammo ...and another 11 months passes with no 22lr in stock anywhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 How will the closer inspection/background checks of gun trusts/LLC-buys eliminate the possibility of criminals getting machine guns? Even with Trusts/LLC's machine guns still cost 5K-50K... what criminal can afford a machine gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Time to stock up on everything. FTFY Artificially driven up panic prices are coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 How will the closer inspection/background checks of gun trusts/LLC-buys eliminate the possibility of criminals getting machine guns? Even with Trusts/LLC's machine guns still cost 5K-50K... what criminal can afford a machine gun? It means Barry can say he took a tough stance on gun crime and succeeded in all the bullshit he claimed he would do, and that congress is worthless trash for not helping in his oppression. That's really all he cares about on this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Best qoute ever from a friend who is an attorney and grew up overseas: "how could such a great country freely elect such an idiot for president, you people are acting like a buch of assbackward Europeans" No joke we took him out shooting in college and I will never forget what he said after emptying a 12 gauge "god I love America, all the sex, beer, and guns a man could want" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 ...and another 11 months passes with no 22lr in stock anywhere... I can find it on internet websites. Artificially driven up panic prices are coming back. What else is new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace1647545504 Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 didn't vote for him either time..much like kasick ( yea i know it;s the wrong spelling) and all the public employees that vote him in then he tried to f'em with sb5. They got what they deserved. mace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey2721 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 sign for what its worth... cant hurt. http://www.nagr.org/M1_DBfb_Survey.aspx?pid=1b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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