wagner Posted November 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 It's not as dramatic at this angle but the s2000went straight for the tree and had to get out of it and was out of the groove too. I agree with all the oil downs the track wasn't as good as it could of been during qualifying but neither car had a clean pass definitely driver skill and a little luck were bigger factors than sheer horsepower alone. In that video you can't see Ray run him down as much as this video: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRAntwon Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Let's clear things up. This was a HEADS UP RACE. No car lengths were spotted. They both spun. The $15k was to "amp up the crowd" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted November 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Let's clear things up. This was a HEADS UP RACE. No car lengths were spotted. They both spun. The $15k was to "amp up the crowd" You spoiled the fun :gabe: I guess I should have been 100% more clear and made the mcsteak that people would know this was a heads up race :lolguy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Alex- Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Yes, when I first saw "3 cars and the hit", that's what I thought the negotiation was. The GoPro on the S2k definitely shows how hard Ray was pulling, just ran out of real estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRAntwon Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 You spoiled the fun :gabe: I guess I should have been 100% more clear and made the mcsteak that people would know this was a heads up race :lolguy: We were in Marks RV with Barnhill talking about the "$15k" haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted November 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 We were in Marks RV with Barnhill talking about the "$15k" haha Well it originally started at 1k and just kind of went up from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Interesting to hear the track was shit considering all the records that were broken along with everyone I know who races and was at the event, going out there and getting their personal best... Both cars move out and both have huge balls to put up 15k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted November 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Interesting to hear the track was shit considering all the records that were broken along with everyone I know who races and was at the event, going out there and getting their personal best... Both cars move out and both have huge balls to put up 15k Depending on when you ran, tires you were on, and power getting put down made the difference. When I was up on the line reading the track it looked like trails, bald spots and no tack. The index cars oiled down the track constantly. Overall I would say the track was extremely inconsistent and it really was luck if you got good prep, especially if you were on radials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 That's crazy, I have honestly never heard anything bad about MIR. It's always been toted as one of, if not the best track in the country, part of the reason I want to go there is to run fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRAntwon Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 The main reason is the air, at or below sea level. Otherwise the track is ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integranator Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 It's not the "equivalent" of 3 cars and the hit if you can't hook. You just lost a race, because, you couldn't hook. Shit happens. If you lose because you couldn't hook, you lost. That's like racing someone from a light and going back later and saying he only won because he had 3 cars and the hit, when you just spun your ass off and gave it to him. So glad this was said. Thread should be titled "hurt feelings inside" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted November 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 So glad this was said. Thread should be titled "hurt feelings inside" :dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bads2k Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 You compared mir to ntr??? If the track wasn't good why were there two record passes right after Carey's run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 You compared mir to ntr??? If the track wasn't good why were there two record passes right after Carey's run? The track was not consistent at all, period. Did you see Carey and Ray on that pass? Neither could get down the track and we were the last pair. Do you know what they had to do? Re-prep again because it was garbage. If you ran right after the preped or were one of the first few pairs the track was not bad. But what do I know, I was there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bads2k Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 What track is consistent when it goes from 40 degrees in the morning to 65 degrees during the day and back down to 40 degrees with the sun down? Case in point both cars were on the same track and nobody got "the hit" Carey's car was just tuned for the track conditions better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted December 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 What track is consistent when it goes from 40 degrees in the morning to 65 degrees during the day and back down to 40 degrees with the sun down? Case in point both cars were on the same track and nobody got "the hit" Carey's car was just tuned for the track conditions better. The "hit" comment was a joke that nobody got :lolguy: The track prep was not consistent and the main issue. The temp changes are not nearly as big an issue as the fact when there was zero grip on that track at any given time. For the race against Carey neither lane was worth a shit. Myself, Patrick, and Carey's crew guy were laughing about it before the pass trying to figure out who had "lane choice". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Heard these 2 are going to go at it again next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted December 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Heard these 2 are going to go at it again next year? At least one time, maybe more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Yeah, I read 2 times..but didn't wanna speculate too much haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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