Green Bastard Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 These two short sentences, tell you a lot about our government and our culture: 1. We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works. And here’s another one worth considering. 2. Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. How come we never hear about welfare running out of money? What's interesting is the first group "worked for" their money, but the second didn't. Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Thanks Obama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CRed05 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 3. You won $1million in the Australian lottery. Please send a check made out to "Cash" for $600 for processing fees to: Happy Dude 742 Evergreen Terrace Springfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 "DON'T HATE THE CREATOR HATE THE CREATION" - Some propaganda I saw a Muslim owned gyro shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 3. You won $1million in the Australian lottery. Please send a check made out to "Cash" for $600 for processing fees to: Happy Dude 742 Evergreen Terrace Springfield Not to derail the thread, but i was flipping through my gmail spam folder the other day just for shits and giggles, and i could not believe that these types of messages still exist. I am getting 1-2 A DAY. Are people really still this stupid that its even worth the time for these people to continue sending these emails out? http://i.imgur.com/HGQjvmR.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POS VETT Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 #1 is a strawman argument, #2 belies a gross misunderstanding of how social security works. What else do you want to talk about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Ryan if you are going to post a political debate thread, at least add ONE sentence of your own thoughts before asking for the opinions of others. What do YOU think of this email, and I'll respond. And by respond, I mean I'll agree with Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Ryan if you are going to post a political debate thread, at least add ONE sentence of your own thoughts before asking for the opinions of others. What do YOU think of this email, and I'll respond. And by respond, I mean I'll agree with Greg. haha Oh, and my opinion, to make it official, is that I found the above comment full of humor and truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Ryan if you are going to post a political debate thread, at least add ONE sentence of your own thoughts before asking for the opinions of others. What do YOU think of this email, and I'll respond. And by respond, I mean I'll agree with Greg. Fair enough, I was just trying to see where it would go. The first one I have no opinion on except people are bad, guns are not. As for the second, I know how the social security system works. That being said, I see welfare as a lost cause now, so I would rather see my tax dollars go to someone who earned it than someone popping out more babies trying to make more money without doing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Fair enough, I was just trying to see where it would go. The first one I have no opinion on except people are bad, guns are not. As for the second, I know how the social security system works. That being said, I see welfare as a lost cause now, so I would rather see my tax dollars go to someone who earned it than someone popping out more babies trying to make more money without doing anything. While there may be a decent percentage of people on assistance that actually need it, the majority are nothing more than nipple suckers who will ride the system out the rest of their life if they can. And they probably will. My girlfriend does case management for the mentally ill, and she says its incredibly easy to apply for it and receive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 As for the second, I know how the social security system works. That being said, I see welfare as a lost cause now, so I would rather see my tax dollars go to someone who earned it than someone popping out more babies trying to make more money without doing anything. "Welfare" from a policy perspective typically includes Social Security, which is a social welfare program. From a colloquial perspective, I understand people typically mean things like TANF. There's no capital-W welfare program, so you need to define what you're talking about. The requirements for TANF were tightened up under Clinton's welfare reform push, but things to remember are that there are typically dependents involved, and so the money is, by definition, going towards people who are too young to work. Obviously the government doesn't want to give money directly to minors, so it gives it to their parent(s), who can only remain unemployed on TANF for 2 years. After that, they need to work a minimum of 30 hours a week for single parents, or a combined 55 hours per week for dual parents. Since TANF is harder to get now than the equivalent programs in the '80s and early 90s, a lot of people have opted instead to "go on disability", which is... wait for it... actually Social Security money. This is the primary program used to care for the mentally ill, aka the people jeffro's girlfriend works with. So a lot of people on "welfare" do actually work for their money, and a lot of people on social security don't. You may be leaning on this shorthand stereotype of welfare queens on the one hand, and WWII vets collecting social security on the other. This is the standard conservative narrative, which I don't think is correct, or helpful, and more people should probably question it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 this thread http://i.imgur.com/i0XL3XD.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdhill Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Spam is always good for a laugh...I recently got a job I didn't apply for...salary...$501,000 a year...All i had to do was send $600 for a background check...Still waiting to hear back...so excited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicranium Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Spam is always good for a laugh...I recently got a job I didn't apply for...salary...$501,000 a year...All i had to do was send $600 for a background check...Still waiting to hear back...so excited Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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