Farkas Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Hopefully Russia will be doing our dirty work. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/03/report-credible-information-isis-aqap-planning-11-anniversary-attack-abroad/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Hopefully Russia will be doing our dirty work. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/03/report-credible-information-isis-aqap-planning-11-anniversary-attack-abroad/ Excellent! http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100702150413/simpsons/images/6/6a/Mr_Burns_evil.gif This is exactly what the US needs...to drain Russian resources just like with Afghanistan in 1979. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlight44 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 ISIS (or ISIL these days) will eventually be destroyed in its current iteration because they don't really have any "friends" whatsoever. Pretty much every state and religion has denounced their barbarity. However, as long as the area is impoverished, guns are available, and young men don't have a productive outlet for their energy (i.e joining a well structured military or getting a real job), these groups will continue to rise. Somehow I am doubting the "no boots on the ground" strategy will work though. If the group is ~17,000 strong that is a fairly significant fighting force capable of resisting on a wide front. Given that not everyone is well trained and some will surrender or flee when their world starts getting introduced to precision guided munitions though. I always wonder about giving arms to any group that isn't the US or a close ally. For example, funding and arming the mujahedin in the 80s was probably not the best decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Obama should probably drop a few archers out in the desert to draw ISIS out and hit them with a lightning spell or 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 .... I always wonder about giving arms to any group that isn't the US or a close ally. For example, funding and arming the mujahedin in the 80s was probably not the best decision. It WAS the best decision at the time. The US goal was to defeat the Soviet Union. Supporting the mujahedin was probably the most important factor in the collapse of the Soviet Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 It WAS the best decision at the time. The US goal was to defeat the Soviet Union. Supporting the mujahedin was probably the most important factor in the collapse of the Soviet Union. our enemy's enemy is our friend applied here for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlight44 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 A majority of the funds and weapons dispersed to Pakistan and the Mujahedin resistance in the 1980's went to a warlord Hekmatyar, who was/is an Islamist with ties to terrorist groups. Perhaps the benefit of bleeding the USSR outweighed the costs of giving war materials to radical Islamists. Of course, this is in retrospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Obama should probably drop a few archers out in the desert to draw ISIS out and hit them with a lightning spell or 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Check out this video of some dude who survived an isis massacre http://nyti.ms/1u2bous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 That dude won the life lotto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC K9 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Check out this video of some dude who survived an isis massacre http://nyti.ms/1u2bous That dude won the life lotto. Lets go ahead and direct our attention to post # 67. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Check out this video of some dude who survived an isis massacre http://nyti.ms/1u2bous I don't know how anyone can watch that video and believe that the beheading videos were faked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwg2189 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Obama should probably drop a few archers out in the desert to draw ISIS out and hit them with a lightning spell or 2 Do they have air defense though? Like maybe drop a dragon also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Well our chump of a president has no real plan and it liks like his "JV Team" line has bit him in more than one way.... http://news.yahoo.com/in-high-tech-battle--us--islamic-state-compete-over-hearts-and-minds-143054814.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 we are in step 2. right now... 1. Create a problem by arming and funding extremists to take down opponents by proxy 2. Incite a reaction from the public by demonizing the same bad guys you put into power 3. Propose a solution which involves a military intervention, the loss of liberties, or both Have you guys seen this interview? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw Moving into step 3., now. This is especially important from President Obama's speech tonight... "Across the border in Syria, we have ramped up our military assistance to the Syrian opposition. Tonight, I again call on Congress, again, to give us additional authorities and resources to train and equip these fighters. In the fight against ISIL, we cannot rely on an Assad regime that terrorizes its own people -- a regime that will never regain the legitimacy it has lost. Instead, we must strengthen the opposition as the best counterweight to extremists like ISIL, while pursuing the political solution necessary to solve Syria’s crisis once and for all." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast5gp Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Obama should probably drop a few archers out in the desert to draw ISIS out and hit them with a lightning spell or 2 LOL!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjxlr8 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 This is the most concise summary of the reasons behind why the US wants to replace the regime in Syria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) This is the most concise summary of the reasons behind why the US wants to replace the regime in Syria. Haven't watched it yet, but in the end, I'm in belief it's all about the US Dollar. Assad supports the PetroEuro and that would be devastating to our economy. With ousting him we also eliminate another supporter that's close to Iron and Russia. Just began watching it........yep, every American should watch it. Edited September 14, 2014 by TTQ B4U Edit: Watched video....agree, it's spot-on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) delete Edited September 14, 2014 by TTQ B4U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace1647545504 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 ISIS or ISIL are a bunch of bitchs mace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Hopefully Russia will be doing our dirty work. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/03/report-credible-information-isis-aqap-planning-11-anniversary-attack-abroad/ I feel like they've been looking for an excuse to flex their muscle. This would be a good opportunity but will they really stretch themselves out for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everlight44 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I feel like they've been looking for an excuse to flex their muscle. This would be a good opportunity but will they really stretch themselves out for it? I don't think that they will. Russia probably hopes that the "west" will bleed from this endeavor, especially with the sanctions that are looming against them. The airstrikes in Iraq have started... Syria TBA. We will see how well training rebel soldiers works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I don't think that they will. Russia probably hopes that the "west" will bleed from this endeavor, especially with the sanctions that are looming against them. The airstrikes in Iraq have started... Syria TBA. We will see how well training rebel soldiers works. Yes, because arming and training people in that region has worked so well for us in the past. How freaking dumb are these elected officals? Have they not read a single freaking history book or seen what has happend in the past. We will just end up fighting the same people we arm and train later. Unreal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 How freaking dumb are these elected officals? Have they not read a single freaking history book or seen what has happend in the past. We will just end up fighting the same people we arm and train later. Perhaps, but it's the alternative to our boots on the ground which keeps reduces the likelihood of the American Public not supporting the effort to oust Assad. It also looks better overall when it's the US supporting rebels with the veil of humanitarianism and anti-terrorism shielding the truth. There's some truth to the fact that perhaps we'd rather fight those we've armed and trained and know something about vs those the other guys armed and trained and that we know nothing about. Politics.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Perhaps, but it's the alternative to our boots on the ground which keeps reduces the likelihood of the American Public not supporting the effort to oust Assad. It also looks better overall when it's the US supporting rebels with the veil of humanitarianism and anti-terrorism shielding the truth. There's some truth to the fact that perhaps we'd rather fight those we've armed and trained and know something about vs those the other guys armed and trained and that we know nothing about. Politics.... Well since we pretty much laid out what we were going to do... http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-goes-underground-syrian-stronghold-160141929.html What a circus of fail and AIDS, who is running this show and calling the shots? I hope we keep boots off the ground because lord knows these turds in DC will set them up for failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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