Between two ferns: Clinton Edition

[Brandon]

no I am saying that there aren't any "Donald Trump has cheated on all of his wives" t-shirts floating around but the number of Hilary T-shirts that reference blow job jokes are numerous. (and by T-shirt I mean other pop culture references as well: memes, bumper stickers, lay people referencing it in TV interviews)

 

 

There are shirts and memes of the same variety counter to your belief, you just have to adjust your facebook feed filter.

 

Tabloids with Trump running his wife's past work (nude)...They attack her like no other, and then bring his character assessment in with it, no different really.

 

"Feminists gunn feminist" when its to their benefit, but fuck if they really give two shits about women who really get in their way of power.

[zeitgeist57]

no I am saying that there aren't any "Donald Trump has cheated on all of his wives" t-shirts floating around but the number of Hilary T-shirts that reference blow job jokes are numerous. (and by T-shirt I mean other pop culture references as well: memes, bumper stickers, lay people referencing it in TV interviews)

 

Kerry, get on CafePress...there's money to be made in the burgeoning "Trump's-a-cheater" hot topic product market!

 

I mean, Bill and Hilary have done a bang-up job keeping both sides of the "I'm-an-elected-philanderer" topic contextual from the 1990s through today. But hey, there's still several weeks to go!

[AngryBMW]

nope. Unless you meant to quote something else and captured the wrong sentence instead.

 

It's one thing to say there is something going on (as evidenced by all the gender based insult T-shirts, and bumper stickers, memes, and other pop culture artifacts) but we don't know the size and total affect, and something quite different to say "all liberal behave in 'x' manner". I mean this concept isn't lost on you right?

 

 

Nice try, keep trying.

 

Nope, I quoted exactly what I meant to and you simply chose, as usual, to not allow the possibility of yourself being wrong.

 

If you are unable to admit that there are people in this country...people that can and will vote in this election...that hate Trump simply because he is a man than you are more ignorant than previously thought and cannot be taken seriously.

 

It is literally the exact same thing you said; there are these haters out there that would make Trump a victim of gender inequality and will have a negative impact on his campaign. And no one knows how many, or what impact they will have, but there will be a negative impact on both of them.

 

so you are saying that no woman in America hates Donald Trump because he is a man?

 

no I am saying that there aren't any "Donald Trump has cheated on all of his wives" t-shirts floating around but the number of Hilary T-shirts that reference blow job jokes are numerous. (and by T-shirt I mean other pop culture references as well: memes, bumper stickers, lay people referencing it in TV interviews)

 

And you dodge the question. The correct answer is "Yes, there are certainly women (and probably some men) that hate Trump simply because he is a man." You won't admit it because it then pokes a big hole in your argument that gender inequality and discrimination affects them both.

 

There are shirts and memes of the same variety counter to your belief, you just have to adjust your facebook feed filter.

 

Tabloids with Trump running his wife's past work (nude)...They attack her like no other, and then bring his character assessment in with it, no different really.

 

Kerry, get on CafePress...there's money to be made in the burgeoning "Trump's-a-cheater" hot topic product market!

 

Kerry cannot see past his own ego to agree with you. Ignorance at it's best.

-Marc

[Geeto67]

Nope, I quoted exactly what I meant to and you simply chose, as usual, to not allow the possibility of yourself being wrong.

 

If you are unable to admit that there are people in this country...people that can and will vote in this election...that hate Trump simply because he is a man than you are more ignorant than previously thought and cannot be taken seriously.

 

It is literally the exact same thing you said; there are these haters out there that would make Trump a victim of gender inequality and will have a negative impact on his campaign. And no one knows how many, or what impact they will have, but there will be a negative impact on both of them.

 

Didn't say it wasn't possible, but it is disproportionate if you are just basing it on what's in the media. Trump infidelity just isn't a big issue in this election because generally in America infidelity penalizes women more than it penalizes men.

 

 

And you dodge the question. The correct answer is "Yes, there are certainly women (and probably some men) that hate Trump simply because he is a man." You won't admit it because it then pokes a big hole in your argument that gender inequality and discrimination affects them both.

If it isn't significant to be noticed and is already benefiting from the advantage of the double standard in which the genders are generally treated then you can't really make the argument that it's having the same effect in this election.

 

Also I think clay was just making a joke that I should get on cafe press and exploit and untapped market.

 

 

Kerry cannot see past his own ego to agree with you. Ignorance at it's best.

-Marc

 

And you can't see past your own dislike of me to do anything other than make pedantic but meaningless arguments just for the sake of insult. I don't make any statements about your personality, I am not out to be petty, just trying to have a discussion.

[Zx2guy19]

Didn't say it wasn't possible, but it is disproportionate if you are just basing it on what's in the media. Trump infidelity just isn't a big issue in this election because generally in America infidelity penalizes women more than it penalizes men.

 

 

 

If it isn't significant to be noticed and is already benefiting from the advantage of the double standard in which the genders are generally treated then you can't really make the argument that it's having the same effect in this election.

 

Also I think clay was just making a joke that I should get on cafe press and exploit and untapped market.

 

 

 

 

And you can't see past your own dislike of me to do anything other than make pedantic but meaningless arguments just for the sake of insult. I don't make any statements about your personality, I am not out to be petty, just trying to have a discussion.

 

I just skipped to the end of this thread, and what do I find? Another argument including you. Dude, you really do think you're smarter than everyone on this forum. It gets exhausting.

[Geeto67]

I just skipped to the end of this thread, and what do I find? Another argument including you. Dude, you really do think you're smarter than everyone on this forum. It gets exhausting.

 

Never said I was smarter. The fact that I am continuing to "argue" with people here is probably proof that I am not.

 

This place has a shitty dynamic where if you have a differing opinion from the core herd you basically get bullied into being silent or leaving. I don't really want to leave, and I have never been one to be silent. so....what other option is there? Besides, didn't you get the memo? arguing with people is what the internet is for (besides porn and shaming people anonymously on social media).

[10phone2]

well this entertaining video thread has hit the fan. May as well lock it up to avoid 3 paragraph responses and the endless pissing contest.

[Mojoe]

This place has a shitty dynamic where if you have a differing opinion from the core herd you basically get bullied into being silent or leaving.

 

The only shitty dynamic that pops up again and again where it is unwanted, like prison rape, is you. You are the one who shoves your views on this forum. And, if someone doesn't like it,YOU over quote the fuck out of everything posted, and their interest in the thread dies of exhaustion.

 

This forum has done very well with having diverse members. If you don't like the balance the rest of us feel there is here, log out. Insulting this forum and its members is unacceptable.

[Geeto67]

The only shitty dynamic that pops up again and again where it is unwanted, like prison rape, is you. You are the one who shoves your views on this forum. And, if someone doesn't like it,YOU over quote the fuck out of everything posted, and their interest in the thread dies of exhaustion.

 

Most of the time I am usually responding to someone else's views which I Find hilarious.

 

The quoting thing is intentional as is the long posts, I know it drives some of the members here with shorter attention spans crazy. Often having the unpopular opinion means I have 5 or 6 people who don't know how to respond in a decent manner so I have to use whatever advantages I have. I'll even admit I don't read some of the other members longer posts when those happen, but I also don't whine and cry about it either.

 

This forum has done very well with having diverse members. If you don't like the balance the rest of us feel there is here, log out. Insulting this forum and its members is unacceptable.

 

I am sure you are aware that this forum in real life has a poor reputation. Are you trying to say it's underserved? Because from where I am standing it isn't. It's fun if you are looking for that kind of fun that involves arguing with people on the internet but that's about it.

 

If you don't like what I say joe you can just get the moderators to remove it. What's a little censorship between friends?

[Mojoe]

I am a Moderator on here. That means, who runs this site has deemed my outlook and way of doing things is fair for how they want the site to function. You fail to understand, or more likely are just too arrogant to grasp, that the members here and moderators simply tolerate you. We dream of your contribution here being of substance, yet you continue the nightmare reality of being an argumentative asshole. The poor reputation you speak of, may have been in years past where dumb asses would over troll or just not represent the forum well. That's gone, except for you. You are the single most pain in the ass member on this forum currently. Unfortunately, you look at that as a badge of honor. Your contribution = zero. Hold a charity fund raiser or something, and give back to the the members here in some way. Because as of now, all you do is shit on the table while we are all trying to just hang out and talk.

[BStowers023]

Wow...

 

I didn't realize that calling one of the most powerful women in the world (if not the most) a bitch would actually offend someone.

 

I wonder if calling an average joe a dick would equally offend Kerry? I mean, we are all about equality, right?

[Geeto67]

You fail to understand, or more likely are just too arrogant to grasp, that the members here and moderators simply tolerate you.

I don't fail to understand that, I rely on it. For a few on here it is the only act of tolerance they show toward another human being (<-- yes that's supposed to be a joke).

 

We dream of your contribution here being of substance, yet you continue the nightmare reality of being an argumentative asshole.

I have contributed in the past, some of your members sent a clear message they just want to argue. So argue it is.

 

The poor reputation you speak of, may have been in years past where dumb asses would over troll or just not represent the forum well.

It's not the past if it continues to happen and if you continue to still have that reputation. It may be improving from how it used to be but don't kid yourself by thinking it's behind you.

 

 

That's gone, except for you. You are the single most pain in the ass member on this forum currently.

You can stop pretending I am the sole problem joe, just because you don't happen to like it. You have other members who are way more a pain in the ass, I just show up when there is something controversial and then keep posting to keep it going, but I am far from being this forums sole problem.

 

Unfortunately, you look at that as a badge of honor.

No I am just immune to insults and continue to be entertained as long as the conversation keeps going. I am not proud of anything here, but I do find a lot of it hilarious.

 

 

Your contribution = zero. Hold a charity fund raiser or something, and give back to the the members here in some way. Because as of now, all you do is shit on the table while we are all trying to just hang out and talk.

 

Are you going to hold ever member to this standard? because I am pretty sure I am not the only one "not contributing" by this measure. I am just trying to hang out and talk too, but unfortunately I am just not going to agree with some of the members when they say racist, sexist, or mildly offensive shit. The only crime you are accusing me of is having a difference of opinion. Why should only one group get to voice their opinion? if you are going to have an open forum for discussion then you have to accept that people are not going to agree. You seem to think that my end goal here is to be liked in some way and it isn't, it literally is as simple as I just want entertainment.

 

(and yes I multi-qoted the shit out of your previous post because for some reason I am delighted that you would be annoyed by it).

 

Wow...

 

I didn't realize that calling one of the most powerful women in the world (if not the most) a bitch would actually offend someone.

 

I wonder if calling an average joe a dick would equally offend Kerry? I mean, we are all about equality, right?

 

I am not for calling anybody names. I think that it shows that someone has run out of road on their intellect. If you notice I try (and sometimes fail) not to use them in posts I make here in any serious capacity, most of the time when people say I am insulting them it is by inference or they took something i meant as a joke seriously. Just because you don't like a person's ideas or beliefs doesn't mean that you hate that person, esp if you don't know them.

[BStowers023]

Are you really that sensitive that it hurts your feelings by someone else calling someone you don't know personally at all a name? Is that what we've come to in this country?

 

The pussification of America is spiraling out of control.

[Geeto67]

Are you really that sensitive that it hurts your feelings by someone else calling someone you don't know personally at all a name? Is that what we've come to in this country?

 

The pussification of America is spiraling out of control.

 

No.

 

People can call whomever whatever they want. And I can think whatever about their statements.

 

Name calling doesn't foster conversation, it's un-civil, and frankly makes that person saying it look more like a jackass than the person they are speaking about. Ok so you don't like the person, so what? yeah ok, "so and so" is an "X", so what. If I don't agree I say so. But that's just like my opinion, man. what does my opinion matter anyway?

 

Also, all this "pussification" stuff is nonsense. Being a decent human being doesn't make you a pussy, being an insensitive asshole because you can't be bothered to not offend people doesn't mean you are tough. Using the word pussification makes me think you have more wrapped up in how people perceive your manliness than you have actual empathy for people, but what do I know? Not saying you are this way in real life, but your statement doesn't help if you aren't.

[AngryBMW]

No.

 

People can call whomever whatever they want. And I can think whatever about their statements.

 

Name calling doesn't foster conversation, it's un-civil, and frankly makes that person saying it look more like a jackass than the person they are speaking about. Ok so you don't like the person, so what? yeah ok, "so and so" is an "X", so what. If I don't agree I say so. But that's just like my opinion, man. what does my opinion matter anyway?

 

Also, all this "pussification" stuff is nonsense. Being a decent human being doesn't make you a pussy, being an insensitive asshole because you can't be bothered to not offend people doesn't mean you are tough. Using the word pussification makes me think you have more wrapped up in how people perceive your manliness than you have actual empathy for people, but what do I know? Not saying you are this way in real life, but your statement doesn't help if you aren't.

 

So you just called everyone that called you a name a jackass and an insensitive asshole. Oh, the irony!

-Marc

[Geeto67]

So you just called everyone that called you a name a jackass and an insensitive asshole. Oh, the irony!

-Marc

 

no just you.

[AngryBMW]

no just you.

 

Swing and a miss! I haven't called you a name in this thread.

-Marc

[Geeto67]

Swing and a miss! I haven't called you a name in this thread.

-Marc

 

oh, are we limiting it to this thread?

 

I think my favorite that you have used so far was "douche canoe". Inventive.

 

 

(actually the only reason I do remember that one was it was really funny).

[SRTurbo04]

 

 

I am sure you are aware that this forum in real life has a poor reputation. Are you trying to say it's underserved? Because from where I am standing it isn't. It's fun if you are looking for that kind of fun that involves arguing with people on the internet but that's about it.

 

?

The reputation is "so bad" Yet here you are posting your novels day in and day out, putting your 2 cents into every single thing.

 

 

 

 

Clay i am going to kick you in the balls the next time i see you.... :finger:

[Geeto67]

Clay i am going to kick you in the balls the next time i see you.... :finger:

 

Actually it was Doc and some other guy whose name I forget but who had a SVT focus that suggested I sign up when I first moved here. I'm sure they both regret it now. I met clay through this board. So have fun with your nuts kicking session.

[Geeesammy]

Geeto, I think everyone is just saying "we have enough frontbutt trolls, please leave"

[BStowers023]

No.

 

People can call whomever whatever they want. And I can think whatever about their statements.

 

Name calling doesn't foster conversation, it's un-civil, and frankly makes that person saying it look more like a jackass than the person they are speaking about. Ok so you don't like the person, so what? yeah ok, "so and so" is an "X", so what. If I don't agree I say so. But that's just like my opinion, man. what does my opinion matter anyway?

 

Also, all this "pussification" stuff is nonsense. Being a decent human being doesn't make you a pussy, being an insensitive asshole because you can't be bothered to not offend people doesn't mean you are tough. Using the word pussification makes me think you have more wrapped up in how people perceive your manliness than you have actual empathy for people, but what do I know? Not saying you are this way in real life, but your statement doesn't help if you aren't.

 

 

It's not like I would call someone a name if I didn't think they deserved that title. Hillary Clinton is a fucking cunt. She thinks she is above the law (and obviously is) and she is a lying fucking cunt. I wouldn't just go around calling anyone a fucking cunt.

 

How offended are you right now? :gabe:

[TTQ B4U]

I wouldn't just go around calling anyone a fucking cunt. :gabe:

 

^^ That's signature worthy

 

and I agree Hildabeast has earned the title.

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[Geeesammy]

When someone calls your lord and savior a cunt

 

http://i.imgur.com/MErNlJT.jpg

[TTQ B4U]

Saw this and LOL'd. My how 8 years changes everything.