zeitgeist57 Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 http://imgur.com/DllqUlLl.jpg http://imgur.com/t3WstUdl.jpg Anyone ever replaced rotten timber around a patio or garden? I saw that Menard's has 8' lengths of treated 6"x6" for about $15. Any sources for 15-20 pieces and experience doing this would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Cant use railroad ties? Would probably last much longer. Menards carries those also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankis Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 I've replaced these and I've built a few retaining walls out of these. Easy way is to cut /miter them to fit, usually two cuts with a circular saw works, or a chain saw if rough cuts are fine. Lay them out as desired, then vertically drill through them every 2 feet or so with an auger bit sized to fit rebar, 18 - 24" pieces is what I've always used. Bonus points if stacking them 2 high or more, as drilling through both layers, and then driving rebar through both timbers and then into the earth will keep them in place a long time. Maybe not an issue depending on depth, but confirm no utilities nearby before pounding rebar into place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Rocky, I can...but the railroad ties at Ohio Mulch look horrible and they also seem to be considerably bigger (maybe 8"x8"?). Scott, if you see the top pic, center left...the tie has rotted away so much that you can see the rebar sticking out. That can't be good for kids or barefeet, hence why I need to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Cant use railroad ties? Would probably last much longer. Menards carries those also https://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/landscaping-materials/landscaping-timbers/7-x-9-x-8-used-railroad-ties/p-1444422200987-c-12369.htm?tid=735728426828752827 Damn...that's a beefy piece of timber for $12 a piece! Still would be off at some points by an inch. Would be a lot more ground work to make it fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Looks like possibly drainage / leaf collection caused the rotting also.. New timbers and proper drainage will help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Looks like possibly drainage / leaf collection caused the rotting also.. New timbers and proper drainage will help Carpenter Ants hollowed out the timbers over the last 5 or so years. I'd sprinkle Terro down and use pest control sprays religiously. The detritus you're seeing is leftover fall debris that I'm just now cleaning up. No doubt that soil/moisture exposure in certain parts contributed to rotting, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Looks like you have covered it all just curious here consider laying some basic concrete retainer so you don't have to worry about it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Looks like you have covered it all just curious here consider laying some basic concrete retainer so you don't have to worry about it again? Sounds like a cool idea, just never thought of that as an option? Would it be DIY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Sounds like a cool idea, just never thought of that as an option? Would it be DIY? I dry stacked these from Lowes, very easy and fairly affordable. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-O Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Sounds like a cool idea, just never thought of that as an option? Would it be DIY? Yea for its purpose in thinking just build a wooden box and use good old quick Crete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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