Mojoe Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 So now the my butt has healed from 100MB being forced in service from Spectrum, I'm looking to improve the wifi signal on my out buildings. I Have a detached garage that is 60' from this router. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BUSDVBQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 In that garage, that is the half way point to my shop, I have this. https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-EX2700-100PAS-Wi-Fi-Range-Extender/dp/B00L0YLRUW/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1515753850&sr=1-3&keywords=wifi+booster My shop is about 120' from the main router and 40' from the booster in the garage. Signal is weak at best in the shop and I would like to have good wifi in the shop. There is a plan to hard wire to the shop and have a router there, when I run better electric out there. But for now, I'm looking for something better than what I am running, which isn't helping the shop. I have had this booster in the shop too, hoping it would grab some signal from the house and boost it. But, I think there wasn't a strong enough signal for it to work with. Any guidance is appreciated. Thanks CR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Range extenders boost the signal but cut the speed in half. Fyi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 This is kinda what you need, but it would point you in the right direction. https://www.amazon.com/EZ-Bridge-Lite-EZBR-0214-Outdoor-Wireless-System/dp/B002K683V0 These types of directional Wi-Fi bridges are great for passing through out building sheet metal as well since that type of metal is amazing at blocking 2.4-5GHz signals. Right now with wired vs wireless it is much cheaper to go with a wireless system unless you know all your network gear, router ports, wiring, NIC cards are already Cat 6 compliant. If thats the case you can achieve around 1,000mbps with your network. If any routers or switches in that system are still Cat 5 or Cat 5e rated you'll be slowed down to 100mbps and in this case you could at least get the important data traveling at higher speeds using Wi-Fi where needed. Cat 6 stuff is still pretty expensive. That said, if you need a closed system for a little more security and still need the speed in both the house and garage you'll need to upgrade to Cat 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankis Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Joe, Get yourself two of these and be done... Ubiquiti NanoStation locoM2 2.4GHz Indoor/Outdoor airMax 8dBi CPE https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DCNRTAG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ABmwAbXKXDTGC The Ubiquiti stuff is great, the whole series really. I've had a pair of these bridging around a quarter mile across downtown Newark for a few years now no problem, and there are many accounts of people shooting these (and the M5 model) over a mile line of sight without issue. If you have line of sight you're golden, and a few trees are no issue. For your application a window mount on the house would be fine to transmit and a wall or pole mount on the outside wall of the garage to receive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBQdDude Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Why not run an Ethernet cable out there and call it a day? 300 feet maximum run so you should be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBQdDude Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Joe, Get yourself two of these and be done... Ubiquiti NanoStation locoM2 2.4GHz Indoor/Outdoor airMax 8dBi CPE https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DCNRTAG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ABmwAbXKXDTGC The Ubiquiti stuff is great, the whole series really. I've had a pair of these bridging around a quarter mile across downtown Newark for a few years now no problem, and there are many accounts of people shooting these (and the M5 model) over a mile line of sight without issue. If you have line of sight you're golden, and a few trees are no issue. For your application a window mount on the house would be fine to transmit and a wall or pole mount on the outside wall of the garage to receive. Could I just get one and have that hit my wifi router? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinwebb Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 If you have an old asus router it can be converted to do mesh networking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I had a powerline ethernet backed wifi network in my garage, had its own SSID "TorettosSpeedShop" lol http://www.microcenter.com/product/431924/AV500_Powerline_Kit_with_WiFi_N_Extender_TPL-410APK_(v10R) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankis Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Could I just get one and have that hit my wifi router? Don't believe so. If you have a compatible Ubiquiti router I think they may be configurable as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I had a powerline ethernet backed wifi network in my garage, had its own SSID "TorettosSpeedShop" lol http://www.microcenter.com/product/431924/AV500_Powerline_Kit_with_WiFi_N_Extender_TPL-410APK_(v10R) I had something like that. Every time the woman used the vacuum cleaner my connection upstairs would take a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I had something like that. Every time the woman used the vacuum cleaner my connection upstairs would take a shit. Heard stories about this in apartment type applications. Never had a problem personally at my house. Low latency even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I've got a shitty M/I cookie-cut house, so it's probably something like that. Also I was using Sling hardware.. not exactly the latest and greatest. It's a solid idea for Joe though, assuming his house and garage are connected on an applicable circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Heard stories about this in apartment type applications. Never had a problem personally at my house. Low latency even. Your not really supposed to run ethernet parallel to electric lines or near other EM sources, ie florescent lighting, electric motors. If you run really good shielded cable, have everything grounded right, then it can work pretty well. Now that I'm in business for myself and I take a lot of network connectivity jobs I see all kinds of crappy installs and have to go out and run new cable to access points all the time. Its one of my main service calls. I had no idea the wiring just running along the metal roof structure of a walmart would just go bad hanging there, but it does if its cheap and installed wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Range extenders boost the signal but cut the speed in half. Fyi. I’m ok with that. I just got forced to 100MB. I just need to surf the web, load YouTube and play pandora. Why not run an Ethernet cable out there and call it a day? 300 feet maximum run so you should be good. I said there is a plan for that. I don’t want to do the same work twice. If you have an old asus router it can be converted to do mesh networking This is what I use on the far side of the house, and into the roku for watching tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 This is kinda what you need, but it would point you in the right direction. https://www.amazon.com/EZ-Bridge-Lite-EZBR-0214-Outdoor-Wireless-System/dp/B002K683V0 These types of directional Wi-Fi bridges are great for passing through out building sheet metal as well since that type of metal is amazing at blocking 2.4-5GHz signals. Right now with wired vs wireless it is much cheaper to go with a wireless system unless you know all your network gear, router ports, wiring, NIC cards are already Cat 6 compliant. If thats the case you can achieve around 1,000mbps with your network. If any routers or switches in that system are still Cat 5 or Cat 5e rated you'll be slowed down to 100mbps and in this case you could at least get the important data traveling at higher speeds using Wi-Fi where needed. Cat 6 stuff is still pretty expensive. That said, if you need a closed system for a little more security and still need the speed in both the house and garage you'll need to upgrade to Cat 6. I’ll have to look into this more. I have a switch in the middle of the house, and that is what I plan to link into when I do hard wire out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoe Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Joe, Get yourself two of these and be done... Ubiquiti NanoStation locoM2 2.4GHz Indoor/Outdoor airMax 8dBi CPE https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DCNRTAG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ABmwAbXKXDTGC The Ubiquiti stuff is great, the whole series really. I've had a pair of these bridging around a quarter mile across downtown Newark for a few years now no problem, and there are many accounts of people shooting these (and the M5 model) over a mile line of sight without issue. If you have line of sight you're golden, and a few trees are no issue. For your application a window mount on the house would be fine to transmit and a wall or pole mount on the outside wall of the garage to receive. I certainly like the price point. Thanks for posting. I’ll check these out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Your not really supposed to run ethernet parallel to electric lines or near other EM sources, ie florescent lighting, electric motors. If you run really good shielded cable, have everything grounded right, then it can work pretty well. Now that I'm in business for myself and I take a lot of network connectivity jobs I see all kinds of crappy installs and have to go out and run new cable to access points all the time. Its one of my main service calls. I had no idea the wiring just running along the metal roof structure of a walmart would just go bad hanging there, but it does if its cheap and installed wrong. Not sure what this has to do with Powerline Ethernet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Not sure what this has to do with Powerline Ethernet.... Blah, I missed the powerline ethernet part. I was picturing someone actually running ethernet cable zip tied to their powerline or similar, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 ok man, here's what you do, I have this in my building 600 feet from my house and I'm getting consistant 30mbit download inside a steel building... get yourself an outdoor directional antenna https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Z4I7WQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 you'll need a post to mount it on https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LMAJHAU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 extension cable to reach your wifi extender https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HIJCB8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and then the range extender.. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005UBNGY6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Not needed, but you could also purchase yourself a 9db antenna to replace the 2nd 5db antenna the unit comes with https://www.amazon.com/TECHTOO-Antenna-Connector-Wireless-Extender/dp/B00NVG5YZG/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1516426705&sr=1-5&keywords=9dbi+wifi+antenna I ended up getting myself a power timer so it reset itself every day because the cheap extenders seem to be like Linksys routers and need rebooted all the time. I highly recommend this extender though because the higher priced name brand ones didn't seem to work nearly as well.. But here you are, under 100 bucks and you'll love it. Fast internet and no cables. /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Thought I would update this thread with a link to a good review of a few WIFI range extenders. https://nerdtechy.com/best-outdoor-wifi-range-extender I've put these on my list of equipment and am planning to recommend them to clients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Sorry to bump an old thread- but Im looking to boost signal in both my finished basement and upstairs rooms. Current issues 1) Work from home and use a a VOIP phone so speed is already a commodity. 2) Signal is to week on far wall of basement for Smart TV to pickup signal and use Netflix for example 3) Signal up stairs is too weak for similar function. **Having it strong enough to WORK in a bonus room Id like to have a computer/workstation in is a plus** 4) Limited Cable outlets so moving the cable companies rented router is not a viable option I am getting a bit confused on AP vs Relay vs Router functions. Here are my questions- 1) Should I just buy a great router that will fix all these issues and send the rented one back to the cable company? Or is this not the solution? 2) If I want to boost a signal next to a device far from the router- do I need a RELAY device? 3) What would CR do?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoticGaming Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Sorry to bump an old thread- but Im looking to boost signal in both my finished basement and upstairs rooms. Current issues 1) Work from home and use a a VOIP phone so speed is already a commodity. 2) Signal is to week on far wall of basement for Smart TV to pickup signal and use Netflix for example 3) Signal up stairs is too weak for similar function. **Having it strong enough to WORK in a bonus room Id like to have a computer/workstation in is a plus** 4) Limited Cable outlets so moving the cable companies rented router is not a viable option I am getting a bit confused on AP vs Relay vs Router functions. Here are my questions- 1) Should I just buy a great router that will fix all these issues and send the rented one back to the cable company? Or is this not the solution? 2) If I want to boost a signal next to a device far from the router- do I need a RELAY device? 3) What would CR do?!Wifi? Or do you need a cable? I run the Netgear PL1000 to my shop 200' away and works very well, Internet over powerline. Sender in the house and the receiver in the shop broadcasts wifi out but also has a port on the side of it so you can run an ethernet cable from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Wifi? Or do you need a cable? I run the Netgear PL1000 to my shop 200' away and works very well, Internet over powerline. Sender in the house and the receiver in the shop broadcasts wifi out but also has a port on the side of it so you can run an ethernet cable from. WIFI. Its all in the house- no shop. Need better WiFi in the house only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmrmnhrm Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Right now with wired vs wireless it is much cheaper to go with a wireless system unless you know all your network gear, router ports, wiring, NIC cards are already Cat 6 compliant. If thats the case you can achieve around 1,000mbps with your network. If any routers or switches in that system are still Cat 5 or Cat 5e rated you'll be slowed down to 100mbps and in this case you could at least get the important data traveling at higher speeds using Wi-Fi where needed. Cat 6 stuff is still pretty expensive. Dafuq you smoking? I don't normally shit on other people's posts, but this was pretty damned clueless. Pushing gigabit (1000mbps) over CAT5e isn't particularly hard for most chips as long as the person doing the terminations isn't an idiot (and even then, they're pretty forgiving). The cost differential in wire between 5/5e/6 is is negligible (hell, I just did my house in shielded 6A for 10-gig compatibility, and even that wasn't much of a jump). Gig switches and network cards are about all you can buy anymore without intentionally looking for the downgrade. Even saw an Asus 10-gig card for half (from $250 to $100 @Microcenter) what it ran last summer. Gigabit over wifi?? Maybe in a lab. Inside a Faraday cage. On a sunspot-free day. With transmitter and receiver about ten feet away from each other. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Dafuq you smoking? I don't normally shit on other people's posts, but this was pretty damned clueless. Pushing gigabit (1000mbps) over CAT5e isn't particularly hard for most chips as long as the person doing the terminations isn't an idiot (and even then, they're pretty forgiving). The cost differential in wire between 5/5e/6 is is negligible (hell, I just did my house in shielded 6A for 10-gig compatibility, and even that wasn't much of a jump). Gig switches and network cards are about all you can buy anymore without intentionally looking for the downgrade. Even saw an Asus 10-gig card for half (from $250 to $100 @Microcenter) what it ran last summer. Gigabit over wifi?? Maybe in a lab. Inside a Faraday cage. On a sunspot-free day. With transmitter and receiver about ten feet away from each other. Maybe. I'll add that wireless is shared bandwidth between all devices while ethernet is dedicated per device. (unless you specifically hunt for a hub instead of a switch) Wireless is also never as reliable as wired.* * Source: I manage both the wired and wireless networks for a hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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