carl1647545492 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Wifeys 05 Odyssey has a shudder on very light throttle,I believe its the Tranny/tq converter and not running gear,everything else feels fine shifting through the gears apart from the slight judder on light acceleration in the 30 to 40 mph zone that goes away when you give it gas. We are booked in to get a "software" flash at Roush Honda for $116....no biggie...what does that hope to achieve and does it work? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 My 05 Honda pilot used to do this too. Only at very light throttle. I replaced some solenoids for 3rd and 4th gear hoping it would fix it, it didn't. I never got it resolved before selling it. Seems like its a pretty common issue. The software flash could change line pressure or shift points and get rid of it I suppose. I never tried taking mine to the dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCode04 Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 My TSX was driving me crazy with a shudder for months. I ended up having to replace the front axle half shafts. This is fairly common on the Acuras but I am not sure about the Honda products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1647545492 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Gergwheel said: My 05 Honda pilot used to do this too. Only at very light throttle. I replaced some solenoids for 3rd and 4th gear hoping it would fix it, it didn't. I never got it resolved before selling it. Seems like its a pretty common issue. The software flash could change line pressure or shift points and get rid of it I suppose. I never tried taking mine to the dealer. I don't too but from what I have read it solves the problem half of the time. RCode04 said: My TSX was driving me crazy with a shudder for months. I ended up having to replace the front axle half shafts. This is fairly common on the Acuras but I am not sure about the Honda products. I live with it if its axles. I did a triple tranny oil change replaced the external atf filter put some lubeguard in it and lets see if that can help/fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiji ST Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 My wife's 06 CR-V has just started doing this as well. I thought it was a misfire or something, but no codes and plugs/wires are good. I've also noticed a small leak coming from somewhere so I've been thinking the tranny is leaking. I'd like to see if this could be a solution for us as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1647545492 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 When did you last change the tranny oil? If you can't remember you may want to change it 3 times over a course of a few days driving to gently clean it out. Odyssey is every 30 k and we have not been religious about doing it but always do timing belt/Oil and stuff we can see, go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiji ST Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 carl said: When did you last change the tranny oil? If you can't remember you may want to change it 3 times over a course of a few days driving to gently clean it out. Odyssey is every 30 k and we have not been religious about doing it but always do timing belt/Oil and stuff we can see, go figure. Probably never had it done. At least while we've owned it. Never did it on her previous CR-V either and it had 160k on it when we traded it in without issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion Motorsports1647545491 Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 Gergwheel said: My 05 Honda pilot used to do this too. Only at very light throttle. I replaced some solenoids for 3rd and 4th gear hoping it would fix it, it didn't. I never got it resolved before selling it. Seems like its a pretty common issue. The software flash could change line pressure or shift points and get rid of it I suppose. I never tried taking mine to the dealer. We had my wife's previous, previous Odyssey at Roush for the same issue, plus serious 3-4 shift issues, plus all kinds of dash lights. Roush quoted a new transmission, plus labor. We sold it for nothing, and told the new owner it needed a transmission. I ran into the new owner three months later, and he told my that Germain Honda put two solenoids in it, and it ran like new. Long story short, get a second opinion if you feel you need to, and Odyssey transmissions sucked until 06+. Thanks, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1647545492 Posted June 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 Stallion Motorsports said: We had my wife's previous, previous Odyssey at Roush for the same issue, plus serious 3-4 shift issues, plus all kinds of dash lights. Roush quoted a new transmission, plus labor. We sold it for nothing, and told the new owner it needed a transmission. I ran into the new owner three months later, and he told my that Germain Honda put two solenoids in it, and it ran like new. Long story short, get a second opinion if you feel you need to, and Odyssey transmissions sucked until 06+. Thanks, Tom Yeah,I was hoping to fix before my Monday appointment. Man thats a shitty deal on your Ody,guy should have given you a little something to take the edge off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiji ST Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 Stallion Motorsports said: We had my wife's previous, previous Odyssey at Roush for the same issue, plus serious 3-4 shift issues, plus all kinds of dash lights. Roush quoted a new transmission, plus labor. We sold it for nothing, and told the new owner it needed a transmission. I ran into the new owner three months later, and he told my that Germain Honda put two solenoids in it, and it ran like new. Long story short, get a second opinion if you feel you need to, and Odyssey transmissions sucked until 06+. Thanks, Tom This. I was a detailer at a Honda dealer for a couple of summers in college and they had two guys who would do nothing but replace transmissions in second gen Odysseys and first gen Pilots. Honda stepped up and took care of a lot of people though, I have to give them credit for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyctsv Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 Reading your description I also thought CV joints. Our Volvo had the same issue and it was the axles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1647545492 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 From the dealer....."looks like the clutch paks are bad! no codes were showing"...."We at Honda is not allowed to tear into transmission.... new replacement tranny 5 thousand dollars" A shame but it is what it is,I guess I will drive until it dies as it still works and is my mountain bike conveyance ; ) I have learnt my lesson as its the second good paid off car of mine to get kicked to the curb b/c of tranny issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiji ST Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 carl said: When did you last change the tranny oil? If you can't remember you may want to change it 3 times over a course of a few days driving to gently clean it out. Odyssey is every 30 k and we have not been religious about doing it but always do timing belt/Oil and stuff we can see, go figure. Turns out the axle seal is bad and is draining transmission fluid. New seal and I'm having new fluid put in too. We will see how it goes I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1647545492 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Fiji ST said: Turns out the axle seal is bad and is draining transmission fluid. New seal and I'm having new fluid put in too. We will see how it goes I guess. Who did you go to to fix it Roush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiji ST Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 carl said: Who did you go to to fix it Roush? My service department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion Motorsports1647545491 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Fiji ST said: My service department. Where do you work? Thanks, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiji ST Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Stallion Motorsports said: Where do you work? Thanks, Tom Byers Ford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Fiji ST said: Byers Ford? Is this info supposed to be widely known or something? The question mark makes that statement come across sarcastically. Ok I see it in your profile now. Never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion Motorsports1647545491 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Fiji ST said: Byers Ford? Thanks, I wasn't paying attention to your profile. I figured you worked at a Honda dealership. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiji ST Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Stallion Motorsports said: Thanks, I wasn't paying attention to your profile. I figured you worked at a Honda dealership. Tom No problem. Were you looking for someone who works at one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion Motorsports1647545491 Posted June 24, 2018 Report Share Posted June 24, 2018 Fiji ST said: No problem. Were you looking for someone who works at one? Nope, we are covered, I was just curious if your dealership was one that we have dealt with. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODoyle Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 carl said: Wifeys 05 Odyssey has a shudder on very light throttle,I believe its the Tranny/tq converter and not running gear,everything else feels fine shifting through the gears apart from the slight judder on light acceleration in the 30 to 40 mph zone that goes away when you give it gas. We are booked in to get a "software" flash at Roush Honda for $116....no biggie...what does that hope to achieve and does it work? Cheers. My Sister In Law just had this done at Matthews in Marion to fix the same issue on hers. It is smooth as butter now. They also did a fluid change while they were there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiji ST Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Quote My Sister In Law just had this done at Matthews in Marion to fix the same issue on hers. It is smooth as butter now. They also did a fluid change while they were there. Did she do the "flash" too? I haven't noticed the shimmy at all since I had fresh fluid put in last week. We will see as the miles run up, but we put around 250 miles on the CR-V this weekend and it feels a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1647545492 Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Quote My Sister In Law just had this done at Matthews in Marion to fix the same issue on hers. It is smooth as butter now. They also did a fluid change while they were there. Do you know what they did to fix,new fluid flash or? Fiji ST said: Did she do the "flash" too? I haven't noticed the shimmy at all since I had fresh fluid put in last week. We will see as the miles run up, but we put around 250 miles on the CR-V this weekend and it feels a lot better. You dodged a bullet. I drained ours 5 times with fresh atf replaced the small filter and I did not get lucky unfortunately,if the tranny is fubar then fresh fluid aint fixing it at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODoyle Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 carl said: Do you know what they did to fix,new fluid flash or? I had to call them twice. Once to tell them that its warranty work and they next time to tell them after they change the fluid to do the flash. Her van has had both done and the problems have resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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