Trouble Maker Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) If you are considering an FJ, why not just look at a Pentastar (2012+) JKU Wrangler? The FJ and Wrangler comparison is reasonable, but already the FJ is maybe too far down the path of a 1 trick pony. I was just putting it out there as another idea to see what the hive mind though. For me the Wrangler's are even further down the path of does only 1 thing really well. Maybe if I were looking for off-road focused vehicle, a 2 door would be cool. 4 doors seem huge, bigger than what I feel a Wrangler should be. They are about the size of the Grand Cherokee or 4 runner. But with less towing capacity and what seems like less usable cargo room. Edited November 30, 2020 by Trouble Maker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 I've decided I'm specifically not looking for a full sized truck in size or capability. 6.2 Z71 Get big all terrains and drive it to work Put a loud exhaust on it to establish dominance :dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 The FJ and Wrangler comparison is reasonable, but already the FJ is maybe too far down the path of a 1 trick pony. I was just putting it out there as another idea to see what the hive mind though. For me the Wrangler's are even further down the path of does only 1 thing really well. Maybe if I were looking for off-road focused vehicle, a 2 door would be cool. 4 doors seem huge, bigger than what I feel a Wrangler should be. They are about the size of the Grand Cherokee or 4 runner. But with less towing capacity and what seems like less usable cargo room. FJ is more comfy than a wrangler, but it ain't going to be the marshmallow cloud of heated and cooled seats that a GC would have. I don't know that it is a 1 trick pony, so much as a really capable SUV. The demo's I drove were a lot more like my '99 2 door Tahoe sport than like a wrangler. A decent amount of comfort layered on top of a solid platform, but not a luxury car like a GC. Speaking of Luxury, have you looked at a Lexus LX? It is the Lexus version of the Toyota Land Cruiser, that oddly sometimes sells for less than the actual land cruiser despite being mechanically the same truck with way more luxury options. Tow rating is 6500lbs, so not bad. $20K should put you solidly in a 10 year old truck with just under 100K miles so about the same as an FJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 FJ is more comfy than a wrangler, but it ain't going to be the marshmallow cloud of heated and cooled seats that a GC would have. I don't know that it is a 1 trick pony, so much as a really capable SUV. The demo's I drove were a lot more like my '99 2 door Tahoe sport than like a wrangler. A decent amount of comfort layered on top of a solid platform, but not a luxury car like a GC. Speaking of Luxury, have you looked at a Lexus LX? It is the Lexus version of the Toyota Land Cruiser, that oddly sometimes sells for less than the actual land cruiser despite being mechanically the same truck with way more luxury options. Tow rating is 6500lbs, so not bad. $20K should put you solidly in a 10 year old truck with just under 100K miles so about the same as an FJ Lexus GX or LX would be awesome to get into a Land Cruiser. But the prices are too damn high. $24k would get me roughly into a 2016 Grand Cherokee, 2013 GX or 2009 LX. https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/price-trends/Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-d490 https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/price-trends/Lexus-GX-d2063 https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/price-trends/Lexus-LX-570-d1518 Sure, they all other things equal including year and mileage they are probably nicer and more reliable than the Grand Cherokee. But price being equal they are older and the Cherokee seems like the better deal on the surface to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Taco. Reliable, popular, and a large aftermarket. I shouldn't say how I know this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Taco would be my choice for truck/off-road/towing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Taco. Taco Through this process, talking it over with people including this thread, thinking about it, I'm pretty much set on an SUV for the space inside. The reality is most of the time I'll be throwing something like skis, camping gear, a bike in the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Through this process, talking it over with people including this thread, thinking about it, I'm pretty much set on an SUV for the space inside. The reality is most of the time I'll be throwing something like skis, camping gear, a bike in the back.In that case I'd just be patient for a good 4runner deal. Add airbags for $100 to assist towing. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted December 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Any thoughts on the diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee? Prices for used ones I'm looking at seem similar enough to the V8, which seems like a no-brainier to pick the diesel. But I've never had a diesel vehicle before, and don't know much about this one, so I thought I would ask here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted December 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Thanks for the advice and letting me bounce ideas off of everyone! Picked up a 2014 Grand Cherokee Summit ecoDiesel! It's really clean inside and out for it's age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 I don't know a lot about them, but my wife's stepfather had leased one and loved it. He got great milage and towed a small trailer often with no issues. Looks really clean. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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