Otis Nice Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 We should not minimize the severity of COVID and those who have died from it by giving credence to this disproved conspiracy theory. I agree. You're right, nobody has been talking about comorbidities and at-risk groups. I mean, other than all that information that the CDC has been pumping out about comorbidities and at-risk groups. Good catch though. Doctors should really take note and start encouraging their patients to get exercise and lower their BMIs. I can't believe they haven't thought of this yet. You're so elegant, graceful, and just pleasant to talk to/read. I lose it every time you get all bitchy or sarcastic then whine that nobody wants to have a civil conversation with you. :lolguy: Flangin' turds. I am curious what you mean by this one? can you elaborate? No. Probably not. Don't smoke. Eat a diet high in fruits and vegetables. Exercise regularly. Maintain a healthy weight. If you drink alcohol, drink only in moderation. Get adequate sleep. Take steps to avoid infection, such as washing your hands frequently and cooking meats thoroughly. I was absolutely KILLING this list right up until, "eat a diet high in fruits and vegetables." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickey4271647545519 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Hope none of you have a side hustle that you don't pay tax on. Sleep Joe is pushing for banks to report any account with a in/out flow of more than $600 annually, so the ole' IRS can make sure they get their cut. Can we all take a break from vax/non-vax and fling shit at each other over this for a bit please? Apparently no one actually cares :no: TL;DR fuck the IRS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Apparently no one actually cares :no: TL;DR fuck the IRS They care more about bashing others. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Taxation is theft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace1647545504 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 the columbus mayor is an idiot on multiple levels. something diff than vax/no vax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted September 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Apparently no one actually cares :no: Link to the actual proposal (on page 88). We'll see if congress picks it up. On the one hand, I don't particularly care if your income comes from a "side hustle." I pay taxes on my full income as a W-2 employee, and I don't have much sympathy for people not declaring income on their returns in order to evade taxes. On the other hand(s), this seems like a pretty big expense for banks for a pretty minimum net haul. I wish the IRS and congress would go after all of the substantial tax cheats out there. Rich fucks and large corporations avoiding taxes through legal loopholes. Taxation is theft. The problem I have with "taxation is theft" is that even hardcore libertarians concede that some government is necessary (K-8 schools, national defense, etc). And if that's true, then some form of taxes need to be levied to pay for it. And once you've conceded that some taxation is necessary, then it stands to reason that if taxation is theft, then some theft is necessary. And what has that accomplished other than diluting the meaning of the word "theft." Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 The problem I have with "taxation is theft" is that even hardcore libertarians concede that some government is necessary (K-8 schools, national defense, etc). And if that's true, then some form of taxes need to be levied to pay for it. And once you've conceded that some taxation is necessary, then it stands to reason that if taxation is theft, then some theft is necessary. And what has that accomplished other than diluting the meaning of the word "theft." Thoughts? Maybe the military should start a Go Fund Me. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Link to the actual proposal (on page 88). We'll see if congress picks it up. On the one hand, I don't particularly care if your income comes from a "side hustle." I pay taxes on my full income as a W-2 employee, and I don't have much sympathy for people not declaring income on their returns in order to evade taxes. On the other hand(s), this seems like a pretty big expense for banks for a pretty minimum net haul. I wish the IRS and congress would go after all of the substantial tax cheats out there. Rich fucks and large corporations avoiding taxes through legal loopholes. The problem I have with "taxation is theft" is that even hardcore libertarians concede that some government is necessary (K-8 schools, national defense, etc). And if that's true, then some form of taxes need to be levied to pay for it. And once you've conceded that some taxation is necessary, then it stands to reason that if taxation is theft, then some theft is necessary. And what has that accomplished other than diluting the meaning of the word "theft." Thoughts? There was no taxes before 1935. Now that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be some taxes, but there is a whole lot of wasteful spending they need to cut out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted September 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 There was no taxes before 1935. This is not true. Not even sure where to begin here. The 16th amendment was ratified in 1913, that's when federal income taxes were authorized. But there were federal incomes taxes before that, there were non-federal income taxes before that, there were non-federal non-income taxes before that, and there were federal non-income taxes before that. We actually fought a war over taxes, sort of started in 1776. And then immediately levied taxes in order to pay for our war debts. Now that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be some taxes Ergo, if taxation is theft, then you as well concede that some theft is necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Thoughts? I think taxation is theft. Maybe the military should start a Go Fund Me. I would gladly donate given I knew how the funds were being appropriated. There was no taxes before 1935. Now that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be some taxes, but there is a whole lot of wasteful spending they need to cut out. Bingo. Also... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted September 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 I think taxation is theft. The problem I have with "taxation is theft" is that even hardcore libertarians concede that some government is necessary (K-8 schools, national defense, etc). And if that's true, then some form of taxes need to be levied to pay for it. And once you've conceded that some taxation is necessary, then it stands to reason that if taxation is theft, then some theft is necessary. And what has that accomplished other than diluting the meaning of the word "theft." Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10phone2 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 property taxes are used as a means to keep old segregation lines from before in blue cities. thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1647545532 Posted September 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 property taxes are used as a means to keep old segregation lines from before. thoughts? Agreed. Local property taxes should be redistributed, or alternate means of funding services should be found. See DeRolph v Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Apparently no one actually cares :no: TL;DR fuck the IRS I'm guessing most people with an all cash side hustle don't put that money into the bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 property taxes are used as a means to keep old segregation lines from before in blue cities. thoughts? Not BLUE cities, ALL cities. Oh and it's so much worse than that. Stop making uniform racisim into a one sided attack against a political party when it's really a uniform problem across all political party lines, it makes you look less smart than you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 I think taxation is theft. Don't feel bad, lots of people think dumb stuff. :gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Bastard Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Ergo, if taxation is theft, then you as well concede that some theft is necessary. Where did I say that taxation is theft? I just think that before taxes are raised wasteful spending should be taken care of first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10phone2 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Not BLUE cities, ALL cities. Oh and it's so much worse than that. Stop making uniform racisim into a one sided attack against a political party when it's really a uniform problem across all political party lines, it makes you look less smart than you are. had to include blue just to get your reply. yes kerry, property taxes do reinforce old segregation lines regardless of cities, as you agree. maybe people should be able to spend or donate how they see fit without having to pay to the evil "man/woman/gender terminology" to pay for causes they do not believe supports the best interest of there community or there family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace1647545504 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 property taxes suck..my taxes were about 4k at the time my son went to school but he ended up going to st chucks. so the locals gave me a refund of $250 a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 had to include blue just to get your reply. yes kerry, property taxes do reinforce old segregation lines regardless of cities, as you agree. No you didn't but I appreciate you valuing my opinion enough that you want me to respond. Just wish you didn't feel like you have to make an effort to "trigger" people through misinformation to have a dialog. maybe people should be able to spend or donate how they see fit See this is what I mean about libertarians being bad at history. We tried that for about a hundred years in this country and for several thousand in the old countries, and you know what it led to? lots of death, exploitations of the vulnerable, slavery, debtors prisons, and class warfare to name a few. Did you think the french revolution or the English and American Civil Wars came out of nowhere? without having to pay to the evil "man/woman/gender terminology" I literally have no idea what you are trying to say here. None. Also why is it "evil"? to pay for causes they do not believe supports the best interest of there community or there family. So the funny thing is what's better for society as a whole and what's better for an individual are not always aligned. It takes a case by case evaluation, and even then the idea of peace among the majority doesn't always mean peace for everyone. Just because you do not "believe" that social programs work doesn't mean they don't (usually they do). There is an education and access to information deficit that needs to be addressed before we can begin to work on the whole "why should I be forced to pay taxes to pay for "x" thing". Every law in this country is written in someone's blood, but most have opinions about why it exists at all rather than taking the time to figure out whose blood it is and why it was spilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10phone2 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 we'll agree to disagree. nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 we'll agree to disagree. nothing wrong with that. oh, there is plenty wrong with that....do you want to have that conversation? also, what if I don't want to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh8sti Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Biden’s admin kills 10 civilians in afghan - mainstream media….meh. If trump did that, impeachment #7 would be voted on Immediately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Biden’s admin kills 10 civilians in afghan - mainstream media….meh. If trump did that, impeachment #7 would be voted on ImmediatelyYeah, because the Trump administration didn't kill any civilians or else that would have totally happened.... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-civilian-idUSKBN22I2X3 https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/papers/2020/AirstrikesAfghanistan Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 http://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/pa-liquor-stores-to-begin-rationing-some-liquor-products-because-of-supply-issues/ Pa. liquor stores to ration some products because of supply issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstmg8 Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 http://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/pa-liquor-stores-to-begin-rationing-some-liquor-products-because-of-supply-issues/Great, here comes the hoarding. Good luck finding any of it in a month. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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