Tomcat0403 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 This may not be a firearms thread, but close enough...I have seen two emails in the past two days, one from the NRA and the other from the owner of the knife shop that I frequent and buy from. This is very serious and would appreciate everyone read the information that I pass along. I carry a knife everywhere I go, and this law would make nearly every knife that can be opened one-handed Illegal, which is damn near EVERY knife!Here is the Email that Brian (owner of Rivers Edge Cutlery), please take a second to read it and pass it along to other people, and also contacting your representative or senator would be nice too.Hello Everyone, I am writing you to inform you that your knife rights are inserious danger due to a bill that is being put to a vote with congressby the US Customs and Border Patrol. They are looking to include a morebroad definition on the Federal Switchblade Act. This would makeanything from Multi-Tools, Swiss Army Knives, Assisted knives, toanything you can open with one hand illegal. Now I don't know about mostpeople but I know I can open a standard buck 110 Folding Hunter with onehand. This puts our industry in danger of a serious collapse. I amincluding links to the Knife Rights website with some sample letters.AKTI has similar letters directly linked from their homepage atwww.akti.org <http://www.akti.org/> . We need to write and Snail Mail(emails are not allowed by Customs) these to Customs by June 21st. Thisis the deadline for public comment and we definitely need your help onthis one. Don't let us all loose out because they think anybody whocarries a knife is a criminal or has criminal intent. Personally I havebeen working in this industry for a long time and I am not about to sitby and watch it go down in flames but we need your help. Please mailthese ASAP.Here are the links to the Letters that would need to bewritten and sent. The first link is the letter that we are sending toThe Customs and Border Patrol.http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=79&Itemid=29The next link is the letter we are sending to our Congress people. Itdoes have to pass through the House and Senate so I would write both ofthem. I plan on doing so often. Here is the sample letter for that one.http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=78&Itemid=29Here is the link to find the correct person to be writing in congressfor you. Knife Rights has put together an easy link to find everythingyou need on your congress people and how to communicate the point we aretrying to get across to them.http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=77&Itemid=29If you need anything else from me let me know and I will be happy tohelp. Thanks,Brian Rivers Edge Cutlery 3935 Trueman Blvd.Hilliard, OH 43026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 This has been up since last night and none of the Obama nazis have jumped down your throat calling you paranoid yet? Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 whats next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 whats nextThey're gonna try and ban bewbies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 They're gonna try and ban bewbies.Wouldn't be half surprised... the conservatives would be OUTRAGED...on the outside anyway. A lot of them are closet homos though, so really, they'd be relieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 A lot of them are closet homos though, so really, they'd be relieved.I'm guessing that you know this based on your time in the closet? When it comes to folks like you, why does everything become a personal attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I'm guessing that you know this based on your time in the closet? When it comes to folks like you, why does everything become a personal attack?Ironic you lead with a personal attack disguised as a question, then proceed to chide me on personal attacks. Especially since I didn't personally attack anyone.My "personal attack" wasn't any more personal than Max Power's "Obama Nazis" comment and you're not up in arms about that comment. Hypocritical much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 they're gonna try and ban bewbies.over my dead body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Ironic you lead with a personal attack disguised as a question, then proceed to chide me on personal attacks. Especially since I didn't personally attack anyone.My "personal attack" wasn't any more personal than Max Power's "Obama Nazis" comment and you're not up in arms about that comment. Hypocritical much?Jrmii is Thats a personal attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Ironic you lead with a personal attack disguised as a question, then proceed to chide me on personal attacks. Especially since I didn't personally attack anyone.My "personal attack" wasn't any more personal than Max Power's "Obama Nazis" comment and you're not up in arms about that comment. Hypocritical much?So, did you personally attack anyone, or didn't you? I mean, really, you can't have it both ways, can you? I suppose that since you didn't "name names" it would be ok, right? If so, that makes Nate's comment ok also as he didn't call anyone out "personally".If THAT's true, then I'm not being hypocritical at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 WTF are you talking about?? You're talking in circles, but I'll answer your questions in the order they were received.1) I did not personally attack anyone. Personal attacks are naming names, I blanket labeled a "group" with a somewhat accurate derogatory stereotype (there are a lot of Republicans and people claiming themselves to be 'conservative' that have been preaching God and the Bible and the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman that have had gay sex scandals come out - that is 100% truth.). I'm not "having it both ways".2) Nate's comment (I assume Nate is max power, I don't know his real name) about Obama Nazi's wasn't personal... that was a blanket comment like mine. That's why they were similar. The latter comment that I was a . THAT'S a personal attack, which he correctly identified and specifically applied to me.So, where did you get lost? How can you not understand the difference between addressing an individual and addressing a collective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 These riders think this thread is now hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd#43 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 WTF are you talking about?? You're talking in circles, but I'll answer your questions in the order they were received.1) I did not personally attack anyone. Personal attacks are naming names, I blanket labeled a "group" with a somewhat accurate derogatory stereotype (there are a lot of Republicans and people claiming themselves to be 'conservative' that have been preaching God and the Bible and the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman that have had gay sex scandals come out - that is 100% truth.). I'm not "having it both ways".2) Nate's comment (I assume Nate is max power, I don't know his real name) about Obama Nazi's wasn't personal... that was a blanket comment like mine. That's why they were similar. The latter comment that I was a . THAT'S a personal attack, which he correctly identified and specifically applied to me.So, where did you get lost? How can you not understand the difference between addressing an individual and addressing a collective?You said it wasn't a personal attack, then you said it was. Seems to me you are the one that needs to make up his/her mind.Nate/Max what's the difference? You got my point.Now, go have another drink of the kool-aide before I confuse you with Swing'r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tomcat0403 Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 well, not what i intended, and i thought people would care a bit more, but that is just me i guess.Point being that this is no bullshit! I rarely if ever get an email from Brian (shop owner) and from what i have seen this is very serious. Just to put it in perspective there is no law in Ohio that i have been able to find limiting the carry of edged weapons openly. This means that the only thing that has to show is the clip of the knife in you pocket, no matter how large. I thought that i would at least see IP saying something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 IP knows better than to bring a knife to a gunfight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 IP knows better than to bring a knife to a gunfight...A knife beats a gun in close combat....hope you draw fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat0403 Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 A knife beats a gun in close combat....hope you draw fast. This is very true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 That's why I carry a knife AND a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 A knife beats a gun in close combat....hope you draw fast. Theoretically, paper beats rock too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 That's why I carry scissors AND paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat0403 Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 That's why I carry a knife AND a gun.same here, always at least a knife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdruggan10r Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Here's an idea, how about if eveyone starts becoming less efficient with their knives and starts using two hands to open them. Even auto knives. Thus this all becomes moot. Once dead in the water, then viola, suddenly you can learn to open them one handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick783 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Our British friends have a solution to knife crime: the Anti-Stab knife!Thank goodness the average brit does not know about slashing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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