Sarah Palin stepping down?

[SAMBUSA]

Alot of fear mongering in this thread.

Hey, where is Obobo's proof that he was born in the U.S.?

[Cheech]

Alot of fear mongering in this thread.

Hey, where is Obobo's proof that he was born in the U.S.?

[Lost]

Health care is way out of control.

Hospitals buying million dollar robots to perform surgery with that they never ever will recoup the cost on. Why do they do it? To keep up with the Jones's. Magnetic steerable cath systems cool million, Ridicules. A waste of money. How many cases does it take to pay for one of those???? Never will they ever get their money out of it.

Egos of Physicians and CEO's drive what is purchased.

Drug eluding cath's for angioplasty.........those bad boys are $7k each. Unbelievable.

Hospitals have a little to do with cost of health care.

Drug companys, My sons ashma meds are $500 for 90 days. I have co workers that pay $500 a month.

Suppliers...... All of the pumps, disposable devices, laundry cost a fortune,

Lawers......mistakes happen, Doctors insurance coverage is unbelievable.

Insurance companys......How many people does a physican office need to file and track insurance claims. 3 or 4.

The consumer.......... They demand and expect only the best when it comes to health care. The best cost, don't smoke, exercise, watch what you eat. Pray for good genes.

Everyone is too blame for our current problems. Everyone needs to compromise.

[renegadmonk]

oh yeah really hate to see her and all of her intelligence leave......ROFLMAO!

[DangBruhY]

I guess she is too stressed out. That's what happens when you try to be the first.

[NinjaNick]

Love that .gif Natedogg.

[blacktalon606]

PPS. You're sadly misinformed. Not to mention not even reading the thread or any of the articles posted - she's NOT running in 2012. :rolleyes:

Your source, NBC says she isn't running... Palin says she is running... who to believe....

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Your source, NBC says she isn't running... Palin says she is running... who to believe....

Are you seriously that dense? I QUOTED what she said. I'll do it again, so maybe you'll read it THIS time.

"We know we can affect positive change outside government at this moment in time on another scale and actually make a difference,"

As in, not interested in government anymore.

politics had become a "superficial, wasteful bloodsport."

She said that... so, you think she'll go back on her word and get back in the 'wasteful bloodsport' in 2012?

Like a few others have mentioned, sarcastically... we'll miss her intelligence.

[Cheech]

Health care is way out of control.

Hospitals buying million dollar robots to perform surgery with that they never ever will recoup the cost on. Why do they do it? To keep up with the Jones's. Magnetic steerable cath systems cool million, Ridicules. A waste of money. How many cases does it take to pay for one of those???? Never will they ever get their money out of it.

Egos of Physicians and CEO's drive what is purchased.

Drug eluding cath's for angioplasty.........those bad boys are $7k each. Unbelievable.

Hospitals have a little to do with cost of health care.

Drug companys, My sons ashma meds are $500 for 90 days. I have co workers that pay $500 a month.

Suppliers...... All of the pumps, disposable devices, laundry cost a fortune,

Lawers......mistakes happen, Doctors insurance coverage is unbelievable.

Insurance companys......How many people does a physican office need to file and track insurance claims. 3 or 4.

The consumer.......... They demand and expect only the best when it comes to health care. The best cost, don't smoke, exercise, watch what you eat. Pray for good genes.

Everyone is too blame for our current problems. Everyone needs to compromise.

It sounds like you are in the health care field, and since I have no idea how much the surgical stuff costs I'm going to assume you are correct.

Pharmaceutical companies have absolutely no business hawking prescription only drugs on national television. The only good it does is to send the hypochondriacs running to the nearest family doctor to get a script written for symptoms they think they have. Even worse is the ads are being placed on somewhat expensive timeslots like the evening news. Watch the evening news sometime and count all the drug ads, I'm willing to bet you don't get through a single commercial break without hearing about at least 2. Doctors should be educated about the new drugs, then they take that info, marry it to their medical expertise and knowledge of your unique situation, and prescribe what is necessary for you.

[dmagicglock]

^^^ its funny you say that, because of FDA regulations they have to say at least one negative/side effect about the drug for every positive thing you list in the commercial. If you've noticed YAZ has those annoying commercials they've had to air to point out all their misleading info in the first commercial. I'm all about drug companies recouping their extremely high overhead costs, but I agree, if its not OTC drugs, I don't think they should market it on t.v. because the avg joe doesn't have 12 years of bio/medical schooling under his belt to even evaluate if its a good option for them.

[Cheech]

^^^ its funny you say that, because of FDA regulations they have to say at least one negative/side effect about the drug for every positive thing you list in the commercial. If you've noticed YAZ has those annoying commercials they've had to air to point out all their misleading info in the first commercial. I'm all about drug companies recouping their extremely high overhead costs, but I agree, if its not OTC drugs, I don't think they should market it on t.v. because the avg joe doesn't have 12 years of bio/medical schooling under his belt to even evaluate if its a good option for them.

I'm not all about drug companies recouping their extremely high overhead costs, especially when this these ads serve as one of the things that makes those overhead costs extremely high. I AM all about drug companies recouping their extremely high R&D costs, since they ARE necessary to create the drugs that we use.

[Strictly Street]

Back to the original topic here;

I saw the story that she was stepping down.

I do wonder why?

As to the news reports. They rarely get the whole story right.

Nor would I expect her to tell them what she is really doing.

From the level of venom the media has shown her I doubt shes saying much they can use.

On the other hand, I'm sure there is much behind the scenes we don't and won't see.

Wait and see.

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Back to the original topic here;

I saw the story that she was stepping down.

I do wonder why?

According to what I've read, it may've stemmed from the upcoming Vanity Fair article. Here's the quote from some guy on CrooksAndLiars.com - it's only his opinion.

Sarah Palin resigned, I think, to spare her family from more attacks. I don’t think it is a coincidence that Sarah Palin is doing this just days after a very nasty Vanity Fair article where folks like Nicolle Wallace and, according to Bill Kristol, McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt (though I’m told Schmidt is not involved), savaged her.

Here's the Vanity Fair article that was linked - it was tl;dr for me.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908

And heres the Yahoo! news speculation:

Why Sarah Palin Quit: http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090704/us_time/08599190866900

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If she runs for another platform and I'm able to vote for her.. I will.

wut?

There is no way, short of proof she legitimately completed an Ivy league degree program and demonstrating she has knowledge of current events that I'd even consider anything she says, let alone vote for her.

She's ignorant and a hypocrite. I don't know whats worse.

[dmagicglock]

wut?

There is no way, short of proof she legitimately completed an Ivy league degree program and demonstrating she has knowledge of current events that I'd even consider anything she says, let alone vote for her.

She's ignorant and a hypocrite. I don't know whats worse.

I know whats worse, voting for a community organizer with one year of senate experience for president

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[fusion]

Did anybody else notice that while every other state is in debt and raising taxes' date=' Alaska actually gave money to each of its' citizens for the last several years and has no personal income or state sales taxes.

If that's stupidity.. then sign me up. I've also met a few Ivy league educated persons. If she lacks a degree in self-righteousness and pretension then I'll let that slide.[/quote']

Because they are a socialist state. They take profits from the sale of one of its natural resources (oil) and distribute it to its people.

Doesn't change the fact she's an idiot.

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I tip my hat to you sir.

[fusion]

State's rights.. and it's their oil. Why shouldn't the people of Alaska get dividends from the oil they own?

Call her an idiot all you want.. she stays out of Alaskan's way and lets them keep their money. Sure wish we had a few more idiots in Washington instead of those fancy college edumacated douche bags that like to cluster fuck everything they touch.

Doesn't mean it isn't a practice that's at the core of socialism. It is, much more so than national health care would be.

Paln wasn't a governor long enough to mess too much up. Not too mention how little time she probably actually spends doing Governor type activities. Not that she could actually make it through a full term it seems. She surely wasn't the one who can take credit for any of the successes Alaska may have as a state.

As for college educated douche bags, I can guarantee you that those without those educations sure as hell aren't going to do any better and would probably make things even worse.

Having said that, government is so fucked up from the back and forth politics of the retards that call them selves conservatives and liberals that even if someone who kicks ass got into office you wouldn't know it. Shit is too far gone to be solved in a single president or congress. Even the right things would seem to be wrong given the state things are in now.

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Hey look, lots more links:

Anchorage Daily News:

Palin attorney decries 'defamatory' rumors

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/853746.html

Insane Sarah Palin, Late At Night On July 4, Threatens To Sue Entire Internet, Via Twitter

http://wonkette.com/409650/insane-sarah-palin-late-at-night-on-july-4-threatens-to-sue-entire-internet-via-twitter

A little biased, but hilariously absurd nonetheless

Did an embezzlement scandal force Sarah Palin to resign?

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/03/palin-hockey-arena-scandal/

She's voteworthy?

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Hookey Dokey... It is strange that people would just step down in the middle of their elected term for no good reason though.

Quitters never win, and winners never quit.

[fusion]

Not really.. a state run socialism and a federally run socialism cannot even be compared.

You can't possibly be saying that since it's state government (while yelling states rights nonetheless) that it's not socialism????

Ok.. she can't take credit for any of it. I wonder if she HAD messed things up if you'd tell me she was governor just long enough to accomplish it. You're right. I concede my stance.

Ummm nope I'd give her the same treatment either way. Either she's the one who helps or hurts period. I wouldn't say she did either if she hadn't. You apparently want to give her credit she doesn't deserve however.

You can guarantee that they would probably make things worse.. not much of a guarantee then. Is it?

Absolutely no argument from me on this opinion. So' date=' when do we start slitting throats??[/quote']

You know what I meant.

[fusion]

It's socialism. No question about it' date=' but you said it was worse than national health care on the 'socialism scale' and that's not true. Alaska's socialism affects Alaska.. and reaping the benefits from their natural resources is not the same as taxing everyone for health care. Not even close. Plus, where in the consitution does it say that the states have no right to socialism? [/quote']

It doesn't but you like to hear an awful lot of bitch about socialism and healthcare. State (gov't, public) controlled natural resources is much closer to socialism than is a national healthcare program. I frankly don't care for either.

Whether or not you believe she is owed credit she is the governor of Alaska.. or was' date=' rather. She gets credit when shit goes bad and gets credit when all is gravy. Can't pick and choose. She's governor so she gets the props. [/quote']

Not sure where we disagree other than you want to give her credit for something she had nothing to do with. She may have been governor but she doesn't get credit for something prior administrations did. Feel free to post up something SHE actually did for Alaska and I'll be more than happy to give her props. She had nothing to do with the people getting money from oil profits, that has been in place longer than I can remember.

Not so sure.. I don't have one of those fancy schmancy college educations that are so necessary for critical thinking and problem solving. Just to be safe you'd better lump me in with the rest of the mouth breathers on this site.

You seem to be making a rather poor assumption here, maybe a bit more critical thinking would help.

[Cheech]

It doesn't but you like to hear an awful lot of bitch about socialism and healthcare. State (gov't, public) controlled natural resources is much closer to socialism than is a national healthcare program. I frankly don't care for either.

In Isaac's defense (it's been a day of firsts ), I don't think you completely understand what the term "state-run" means. A truly state controlled and run natural resources program would involve a state entity (see CNOOC for example) owning the land (or negotiating an oil lease with whomever), owning the gear, doing the actual drilling, taking the profits and inserting them back into the government coffers.

What's happening in Alaska is nowhere near that. Private enterprise (let's say BP, less for me to type) finds oil in land owned by the State. The State and BP jointly negotiate a oil lease that gives the State a certain percentage of oil extracted. The State, seeing (correctly) that they are beholden to the people of whom the land belongs, share the profits accordingly.

So is it socialism? A form, yes. You might say it's the reverse of state-run health care. The two really share no distinct similarities other than everyone gets a benefit from the goverment in the end, through wildly different means.

Not sure where we disagree other than you want to give her credit for something she had nothing to do with. She may have been governor but she doesn't get credit for something prior administrations did. Feel free to post up something SHE actually did for Alaska and I'll be more than happy to give her props. She had nothing to do with the people getting money from oil profits, that has been in place longer than I can remember.

Agreed. The money-for-oil program has been around for ages, I don't feel like looking up the exact time. I have no interest in Alaskan politics, so I can't argue one way or another.

[fusion]

So is it socialism? A form, yes.

So where was I wrong.